Ubiquiti Security Gateway
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@donaldlandru said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@dustinb3403 said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
So last annoying question (hopefully).. . .
Why does Ubiquiti have so many different products that overlap so much?
Simple answer: multiple audiences. Different product lines are geared for different uses.
That is the nice answer.
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@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@donaldlandru said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@dustinb3403 said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
So last annoying question (hopefully).. . .
Why does Ubiquiti have so many different products that overlap so much?
Simple answer: multiple audiences. Different product lines are geared for different uses.
That is the nice answer.
I am a nice guy... question mark
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I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.
What kept you from seeing value in the USG? the price is the only hold back for a small single site SMB. The ER-L and ER-X are just way cheaper.
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Is there a way to enable DPI in the controller without USG?
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@francesco-provino said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
Is there a way to enable DPI in the controller without USG?
The ER series has it's own DPI.
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@dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@francesco-provino said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
Is there a way to enable DPI in the controller without USG?
The ER series has it's own DPI.
Right, it is not like the AP is doing DPI.
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@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@dashrender said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@francesco-provino said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
Is there a way to enable DPI in the controller without USG?
The ER series has it's own DPI.
Right, it is not like the AP is doing DPI.
And neither is the controller in a Unifi Controller setup. It's all in the USG.
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@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@dustinb3403 You don't want a USG. Period. Ever.
It is a gimped ERL.
For personal home use, buy the ERX.
But it lets me manage it with the fancy tools!
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.
The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.
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@john-nicholson said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.
The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.
Ya I wish it would at least send data to the controller. The DHCP service has a spot for it:
but I guess maybe that's just if your APs are DHCP? idk.
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@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@john-nicholson said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.
The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.
Ya I wish it would at least send data to the controller. The DHCP service has a spot for it:
but I guess maybe that's just if your APs are DHCP? idk.
That is setting the DHCP option so any UniFi gear you plug in on that DHCP scope will automatically get pointed to the controller.
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@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@john-nicholson said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.
The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.
Ya I wish it would at least send data to the controller. The DHCP service has a spot for it:
but I guess maybe that's just if your APs are DHCP? idk.
That is setting the DHCP option so any UniFi gear you plug in on that DHCP scope will automatically get pointed to the controller.
Ah ok, makes sense.
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@john-nicholson said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.
The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.
From that point of view, if that is all you need from the router, the USG is a perfectly valid choice for you.
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@jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@john-nicholson said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
@stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.
The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.
From that point of view, if that is all you need from the router, the USG is a perfectly valid choice for you.
Really I'm going to keep it as my base layer 4 edge device and likely put an inline IPS system here (Palo Alto currently winning).
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For you UBNT experts...when do you use the ERL vs ERX? (short answer is ok)
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ERL is my go-to. I have many of them deployed. Don't need the switch ports that are available on the ERX.
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@fateknollogee said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:
For you UBNT experts...when do you use the ERL vs ERX? (short answer is ok)
ERX sometimes for home. Basically I always use the ERL.
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For office use, which one?
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@brandon220 @scottalanmiller Why ERL? cost, performance, reliability?
