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      StorageNinja Vendor @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

      @dustinb3403 You don't want a USG. Period. Ever.

      It is a gimped ERL.

      For personal home use, buy the ERX.

      But it lets me manage it with the fancy tools!

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        StorageNinja Vendor @stacksofplates
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        @stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

        I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.

        The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.

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          stacksofplates @StorageNinja
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          @john-nicholson said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

          @stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

          I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.

          The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.

          Ya I wish it would at least send data to the controller. The DHCP service has a spot for it:
          0_1502154781267_edgemax.png

          but I guess maybe that's just if your APs are DHCP? idk.

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            JaredBusch @stacksofplates
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            @stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

            @john-nicholson said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

            @stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

            I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.

            The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.

            Ya I wish it would at least send data to the controller. The DHCP service has a spot for it:
            0_1502154781267_edgemax.png

            but I guess maybe that's just if your APs are DHCP? idk.

            That is setting the DHCP option so any UniFi gear you plug in on that DHCP scope will automatically get pointed to the controller.

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              stacksofplates @JaredBusch
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              @jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

              @stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

              @john-nicholson said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

              @stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

              I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.

              The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.

              Ya I wish it would at least send data to the controller. The DHCP service has a spot for it:
              0_1502154781267_edgemax.png

              but I guess maybe that's just if your APs are DHCP? idk.

              That is setting the DHCP option so any UniFi gear you plug in on that DHCP scope will automatically get pointed to the controller.

              Ah ok, makes sense.

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                JaredBusch @StorageNinja
                last edited by JaredBusch

                @john-nicholson said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                @stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.

                The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.

                From that point of view, if that is all you need from the router, the USG is a perfectly valid choice for you.

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                  StorageNinja Vendor @JaredBusch
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                  @jaredbusch said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                  @john-nicholson said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                  @stacksofplates said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                  I never saw the value in the USG. Maybe if you were doing full network automation and copying configs, and then that defeats the purpose of the USG anyway. I have an ERL and an EdgeSwitch Lite at home, along with 2 APs.

                  The rest of my gear is manageable by Unifi. It's a bit weird my one device that does DPI and edge services isn't.

                  From that point of view, if that is all you need from the router, the USG is a perfectly valid choice for you.

                  Really I'm going to keep it as my base layer 4 edge device and likely put an inline IPS system here (Palo Alto currently winning).

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                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee
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                    For you UBNT experts...when do you use the ERL vs ERX? (short answer is ok)

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                    • brandon220B
                      brandon220
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                      ERL is my go-to. I have many of them deployed. Don't need the switch ports that are available on the ERX.

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                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                        @fateknollogee said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                        For you UBNT experts...when do you use the ERL vs ERX? (short answer is ok)

                        ERX sometimes for home. Basically I always use the ERL.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee
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                          For office use, which one?
                          For co-lo use, which one?

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                            FATeknollogee
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                            @brandon220 @scottalanmiller Why ERL? cost, performance, reliability?

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                              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                              @fateknollogee said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                              For office use, which one?
                              For co-lo use, which one?

                              ERX for none. ERX for home use, maybe. But I don't. I use ERL everywhere.

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                                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                @fateknollogee said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                @brandon220 @scottalanmiller Why ERL? cost, performance, reliability?

                                No switch, no PoE, more power for the routing. I don't want all that extra stuff in my router.

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                                  FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                                  @scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                  @fateknollogee said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                  @brandon220 @scottalanmiller Why ERL? cost, performance, reliability?

                                  No switch, no PoE, more power for the routing. I don't want all that extra stuff in my router.

                                  This makes sense!

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                                    FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                    @fateknollogee said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                    For office use, which one?
                                    For co-lo use, which one?

                                    ERX for none. ERX for home use, maybe. But I don't. I use ERL everywhere.

                                    ERL for co-lo, yes?

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                                    • brandon220B
                                      brandon220
                                      last edited by

                                      I use them in both scenarios. I too just need a plain router. Don't need the other features.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                        @fateknollogee said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                        @fateknollogee said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                        For office use, which one?
                                        For co-lo use, which one?

                                        ERX for none. ERX for home use, maybe. But I don't. I use ERL everywhere.

                                        ERL for co-lo, yes?

                                        Well certainly not ERX. Normally you want rack mount in a colo, so ERP.

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                                          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                          @fateknollogee said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                          @fateknollogee said in Ubiquiti Security Gateway:

                                          For office use, which one?
                                          For co-lo use, which one?

                                          ERX for none. ERX for home use, maybe. But I don't. I use ERL everywhere.

                                          ERL for co-lo, yes?

                                          Well certainly not ERX. Normally you want rack mount in a colo, so ERP.

                                          Funny you say that, I was just "googling" for ERL rackmount brackets!!

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by FATeknollogee

                                            ERL Rackmount kit:
                                            http://waveguardwireless.com/?product=waveguard-wg-ub-rm1
                                            http://www.ispsupplies.com/KAM-Fab-UB-RM1

                                            btw @scottalanmiller Both companies are located in TX.

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