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    Ubiquiti / Dell switch compatibility issue:

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    • coliverC
      coliver @brianlittlejohn
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      @brianlittlejohn said:

      @art_of_shred Are you using the same SFP+ adapters?

      That's a good question. Are you using SFP+ adapters that have the Dell firmware (I think?) on them. I know Cisco requires a special chip (again I think) on SFP adapters to work with their switches.

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      • J
        Jason Banned
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        If they are third party SFPs you might need to run commands to enable them.

        Also are they are you sure they are multimode and not single mode? and what distance are the meant for? You can burn them up by using them on shorter cables than they are meant to be used with.

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        • art_of_shredA
          art_of_shred Banned
          last edited by art_of_shred

          I think @coliver nailed it at the start. Running switch-to-switch seems to require a crossover... but I'm not having any luck finding such a thing. I guess maybe you need to buy the separate transceivers and individual fiber cables to be able to cross them? The composite cables don't appear to come in a crossed configuration.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @art_of_shred
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            @art_of_shred said:

            I think @coliver nailed it at the start. Running switch-to-switch seems to require a crossover... but I'm not having any luck finding such a thing. I guess maybe you need to buy the separate transceivers and individual fiber cables to be able to cross them? The composite cables don't appear to come in a crossed configuration.

            Can you take a picture of the cable? I've never seen one that doesn't have the ability to come apart.

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              Jason Banned @coliver
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              @coliver said:

              @art_of_shred said:

              I think @coliver nailed it at the start. Running switch-to-switch seems to require a crossover... but I'm not having any luck finding such a thing. I guess maybe you need to buy the separate transceivers and individual fiber cables to be able to cross them? The composite cables don't appear to come in a crossed configuration.

              Can you take a picture of the cable? I've never seen one that doesn't have the ability to come apart.

              Most of them come with clips on them. They usually can be removed but I've never ran into one backwards from the factory.

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              • art_of_shredA
                art_of_shred Banned
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                Here's what we have...
                (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833997115)

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                  Jason Banned @art_of_shred
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                  @art_of_shred said:

                  Here's what we have...
                  (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833997115)

                  Oh, that's not fiber.. that's copper Twinax. Twinax isn't something you generally do between differing models of switches. Because you need compatible SFPs on each end.

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                  • art_of_shredA
                    art_of_shred Banned @Jason
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                    @Jason said:

                    @art_of_shred said:

                    Here's what we have...
                    (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833997115)

                    Oh, that's not fiber.. that's copper Twinax. Twinax isn't something you generally do between differing models of switches. Because you need compatible SFPs on each end.

                    So what's the best way to make a 10G/10G connection between the 2 switches? Should I get fiber and cross it over?

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                      Jason Banned
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                      These are the only supported options on the Unifi.. for 10GB.

                      10GBase-SR

                      Fiberstore SFP-10G85-3M MMF
                      DAC/Twinax

                      Addon SFP-10G-PDAC1M-AO
                      Juniper ex-sfp-10ge-dac-1m - (Amphenol 584990001 Rev A)
                      This is a 10g DAC that appears to link up at 1g when both ends are plugged into the two SFP slots of the ES-24-250W
                      I haven't tested sending traffic over this cable, as I only have one ES-24-250W, and Juniper equipment wants to link up at 10g when using this DAC
                      MikroTik S+DA0001
                      Molex 74742-0001

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver
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                        10GBase-SR is what I would recommend. Get fiber between the switches that seems to be one of the best ways. How close are the switches can you do 10G over twisted pair?

                        I've never heard of Twinax, which isn't unusual just interesting.

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                        • brianlittlejohnB
                          brianlittlejohn
                          last edited by brianlittlejohn

                          I'm using twinax to connect my servers to my backup storage, but the sfp+ adapters are connecting to the exact same Intel cards in both cases.

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                          • art_of_shredA
                            art_of_shred Banned @coliver
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                            @coliver said:
                            How close are the switches ?
                            can you do 10G over twisted pair?

                            1. They're pretty much touching each other
                            2. Yes you can, but these Dell's have no RJ-45 ports

                            Fiber seems to make the most sense for this connection.

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @art_of_shred
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                              @art_of_shred said:

                              @coliver said:
                              How close are the switches ?
                              can you do 10G over twisted pair?

                              1. They're pretty much touching each other
                              2. Yes you can, but these Dell's have no RJ-45 ports

                              Fiber seems to make the most sense for this connection.

                              Yep, if you are going to invest in the modules anyway fiber is the way to go.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403
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                                Gone are the days when you could go into CompUSA and pick up a part like this, unless you guys have a few cards around the office or have a few connections to get equipment to set this up...

                                Seems like a few more days before this'll be up.

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @DustinB3403
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                                  @DustinB3403 said:

                                  Gone are the days when you could go into CompUSA and pick up a part like this, unless you guys have a few cards around the office or have a few connections to get equipment to set this up...

                                  Seems like a few more days before this'll be up.

                                  Especially since it is a holiday week.

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                                  • dafyreD
                                    dafyre @DustinB3403
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                                    @DustinB3403 said:

                                    Gone are the days when you could go into CompUSA and pick up a part like this, unless you guys have a few cards around the office or have a few connections to get equipment to set this up...

                                    Seems like a few more days before this'll be up.

                                    I thought they had it up already? Seems like I remember @scottalanmiller posting pictures of random OSes being installed.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403
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                                      From what this post is saying is that it's not up with a 10GB network connection.

                                      I'm just guessing that they're wanting to make some changes to the original configuration.

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                                      • art_of_shredA
                                        art_of_shred Banned
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                                        Sorry if this is confusing anyone. Yes, the cluster is up and functional, but we can only get 2 nodes on the LAN at a time until we get the Dell switch to interface with the Ubiquiti. The Ubiquiti has only 2 SFP+ ports. In order to get a 3rd, we need to connect the 2 switches so that all of the ports on the Dell can have LAN access through one of the ports on the Ubiquiti.

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                                          Jason Banned @coliver
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                                          @coliver said:

                                          @DustinB3403 said:

                                          Gone are the days when you could go into CompUSA and pick up a part like this, unless you guys have a few cards around the office or have a few connections to get equipment to set this up...

                                          Seems like a few more days before this'll be up.

                                          Especially since it is a holiday week.

                                          Nahh, Just order them off Amazon with Prime.

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