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    Ubiquiti / Dell switch compatibility issue:

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @coliver
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      @coliver said:

      Going to sound really silly... are you sure the TX and RX sides are flipped? That is generally what happens when you get no connectivity with fiber.

      Like the fiber equivalent of a crossover cable?

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      • coliverC
        coliver @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @coliver said:

        Going to sound really silly... are you sure the TX and RX sides are flipped? That is generally what happens when you get no connectivity with fiber.

        Like the fiber equivalent of a crossover cable?

        Kind of. I always remember that TX needs to match with an RX.

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        • art_of_shredA
          art_of_shred Banned @coliver
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          @coliver I know what you're talking about. Some fiber connections have individual terminals for each line. These are composite cables; no option to flip anything.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            So no flipping options? 😉

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            • brianlittlejohnB
              brianlittlejohn @art_of_shred
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              @art_of_shred Are you using the same SFP+ adapters?

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              • coliverC
                coliver @brianlittlejohn
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                @brianlittlejohn said:

                @art_of_shred Are you using the same SFP+ adapters?

                That's a good question. Are you using SFP+ adapters that have the Dell firmware (I think?) on them. I know Cisco requires a special chip (again I think) on SFP adapters to work with their switches.

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                • J
                  Jason Banned
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                  If they are third party SFPs you might need to run commands to enable them.

                  Also are they are you sure they are multimode and not single mode? and what distance are the meant for? You can burn them up by using them on shorter cables than they are meant to be used with.

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                  • art_of_shredA
                    art_of_shred Banned
                    last edited by art_of_shred

                    I think @coliver nailed it at the start. Running switch-to-switch seems to require a crossover... but I'm not having any luck finding such a thing. I guess maybe you need to buy the separate transceivers and individual fiber cables to be able to cross them? The composite cables don't appear to come in a crossed configuration.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @art_of_shred
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                      @art_of_shred said:

                      I think @coliver nailed it at the start. Running switch-to-switch seems to require a crossover... but I'm not having any luck finding such a thing. I guess maybe you need to buy the separate transceivers and individual fiber cables to be able to cross them? The composite cables don't appear to come in a crossed configuration.

                      Can you take a picture of the cable? I've never seen one that doesn't have the ability to come apart.

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                        Jason Banned @coliver
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                        @coliver said:

                        @art_of_shred said:

                        I think @coliver nailed it at the start. Running switch-to-switch seems to require a crossover... but I'm not having any luck finding such a thing. I guess maybe you need to buy the separate transceivers and individual fiber cables to be able to cross them? The composite cables don't appear to come in a crossed configuration.

                        Can you take a picture of the cable? I've never seen one that doesn't have the ability to come apart.

                        Most of them come with clips on them. They usually can be removed but I've never ran into one backwards from the factory.

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                        • art_of_shredA
                          art_of_shred Banned
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                          Here's what we have...
                          (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833997115)

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                            Jason Banned @art_of_shred
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                            @art_of_shred said:

                            Here's what we have...
                            (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833997115)

                            Oh, that's not fiber.. that's copper Twinax. Twinax isn't something you generally do between differing models of switches. Because you need compatible SFPs on each end.

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                            • art_of_shredA
                              art_of_shred Banned @Jason
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                              @Jason said:

                              @art_of_shred said:

                              Here's what we have...
                              (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833997115)

                              Oh, that's not fiber.. that's copper Twinax. Twinax isn't something you generally do between differing models of switches. Because you need compatible SFPs on each end.

                              So what's the best way to make a 10G/10G connection between the 2 switches? Should I get fiber and cross it over?

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                                Jason Banned
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                                These are the only supported options on the Unifi.. for 10GB.

                                10GBase-SR

                                Fiberstore SFP-10G85-3M MMF
                                DAC/Twinax

                                Addon SFP-10G-PDAC1M-AO
                                Juniper ex-sfp-10ge-dac-1m - (Amphenol 584990001 Rev A)
                                This is a 10g DAC that appears to link up at 1g when both ends are plugged into the two SFP slots of the ES-24-250W
                                I haven't tested sending traffic over this cable, as I only have one ES-24-250W, and Juniper equipment wants to link up at 10g when using this DAC
                                MikroTik S+DA0001
                                Molex 74742-0001

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver
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                                  10GBase-SR is what I would recommend. Get fiber between the switches that seems to be one of the best ways. How close are the switches can you do 10G over twisted pair?

                                  I've never heard of Twinax, which isn't unusual just interesting.

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                                  • brianlittlejohnB
                                    brianlittlejohn
                                    last edited by brianlittlejohn

                                    I'm using twinax to connect my servers to my backup storage, but the sfp+ adapters are connecting to the exact same Intel cards in both cases.

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                                    • art_of_shredA
                                      art_of_shred Banned @coliver
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                                      @coliver said:
                                      How close are the switches ?
                                      can you do 10G over twisted pair?

                                      1. They're pretty much touching each other
                                      2. Yes you can, but these Dell's have no RJ-45 ports

                                      Fiber seems to make the most sense for this connection.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @art_of_shred
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                                        @art_of_shred said:

                                        @coliver said:
                                        How close are the switches ?
                                        can you do 10G over twisted pair?

                                        1. They're pretty much touching each other
                                        2. Yes you can, but these Dell's have no RJ-45 ports

                                        Fiber seems to make the most sense for this connection.

                                        Yep, if you are going to invest in the modules anyway fiber is the way to go.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
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                                          Gone are the days when you could go into CompUSA and pick up a part like this, unless you guys have a few cards around the office or have a few connections to get equipment to set this up...

                                          Seems like a few more days before this'll be up.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @DustinB3403
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                                            @DustinB3403 said:

                                            Gone are the days when you could go into CompUSA and pick up a part like this, unless you guys have a few cards around the office or have a few connections to get equipment to set this up...

                                            Seems like a few more days before this'll be up.

                                            Especially since it is a holiday week.

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