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    Reasons Against a Refurbished Server for This?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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      @MattSpeller said:

      @scottalanmiller what's the HP equiv I can look up? dell seems to command a premium on ebay and I want an R510 for my own junk

      xbyte is your ticket there. Nothing will compete in price.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        The closest HP is the DL380 e series. E = economy.

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        • NetworkNerdN
          NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
          last edited by NetworkNerd

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @MattSpeller said:

          @scottalanmiller what's the HP equiv I can look up? dell seems to command a premium on ebay and I want an R510 for my own junk

          xbyte is your ticket there. Nothing will compete in price.

          Yep - through XByte the R610 with 6 300 GB 10K SAS, PERC6i, redundant PSUs, dual Intel Xeon E5520 @ 2.26 GHz, Broadcom NetXtreme II 5709c Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet cards (2 of these) is about $1500. AMAZING.

          But I agree the R510 is worth a look. We have one that is an ESXi host at another site with 7200 RPM SATA drives, and it is running like a champ.

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            hubtechagain
            last edited by hubtechagain

            You want a reason against buying refurbished servers from xbyte? i've got one....

            Because you hate having all that money, and you want to spend it on something!

            that being said i have about 7 or 8 xbyte servers in the wild and LOVE THEM. service is much better than dell, @BradfromxByte is just a swell dude to work with.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              That's Josh from Pertino.

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                hubtechagain
                last edited by

                what are you talking about scott?... 😕

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                • MattSpellerM
                  MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @MattSpeller said:

                  @scottalanmiller what's the HP equiv I can look up? dell seems to command a premium on ebay and I want an R510 for my own junk

                  xbyte is your ticket there. Nothing will compete in price.

                  maybe in the USA, not in Canada - exchange rate is just murder

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                    brendan pitstop nz
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                    i agree - preaching to the choir
                    refurb would be more than adequate. why spend bucket loads of cash when you can spend a fraction for the (same) capability as the work load looks pretty darn minor.

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                    • NetworkNerdN
                      NetworkNerd
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                      What about refurbished UPS units? Have any folks here used them with success?

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                        hubtechagain
                        last edited by

                        hrm. as long as the battery is good/new i wouldn't mind i dont think. never had a refurb ups though

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
                          last edited by

                          @NetworkNerd said:

                          What about refurbished UPS units? Have any folks here used them with success?

                          Definitely. Refurbed means that it has been fixed. Refurbed is often better than new because it has more testing. I can't really think of any business product I would not prefer refurbed all other factors being equal.

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                          • MattSpellerM
                            MattSpeller @NetworkNerd
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                            @NetworkNerd said:

                            What about refurbished UPS units? Have any folks here used them with success?

                            Refurb'd UPS are awesome savings if you can find some. Just make sure they got NEW batteries and not refurb'd / "tested" batteries.

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                            • StrongBadS
                              StrongBad @MattSpeller
                              last edited by

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @NetworkNerd said:

                              What about refurbished UPS units? Have any folks here used them with success?

                              Refurb'd UPS are awesome savings if you can find some. Just make sure they got NEW batteries and not refurb'd / "tested" batteries.

                              What would be wrong with refurbed batteries?

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @StrongBad
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                                @StrongBad unlike lead acid car batteries that can be somewhat refurbished UPS units use AGM (absorbent glass mat) or VRLA (valve regulated for (higher current) lead acid absorbent glass mat) which can not be refurbished much at all and should just be recycled after 3 years.

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                                • StrongBadS
                                  StrongBad
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                                  Can't they just replace those parts?

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @StrongBad
                                    last edited by MattSpeller

                                    @StrongBad Nope, it's all sealed up together to prevent gas escaping (or control it's release)

                                    http://www.gpbatteryygn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/vrla-battery-1024x695.jpg

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                                    • StrongBadS
                                      StrongBad
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                                      Can they even call it refurbed then? That's just used.

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @StrongBad
                                        last edited by MattSpeller

                                        @StrongBad Exactly! The UPS it's self can be used and refurb'd but the batteries must be new.

                                        Here's an AGM battery that someone tried to take apart. (Don't try that at home!)

                                        https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/AGM_inside.jpg

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