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    Reasons Against a Refurbished Server for This?

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    • MattSpellerM
      MattSpeller
      last edited by

      Refurb will work a treat, no need for new. I'd go 7200rpm rust in a larger size (1tb+) because.... well they're cheap, why not! Doubt you'd save more than $10/drive between 300gb & 1tb.

      Personally I'd consider upping the ram to 64gb, it should be a super cheap option too (under $100) and then you can give the vm's ALL the ram they'll ever want. Slightly wasteful, sure, but for a remote location it's ok IMHO to splurge a bit on stuff that'll help prevent silly problems.

      Dual PSU is a good call, cheap upgrade & cheap insurance, again especially for a remote location you won't touch and clean often.

      For CPU, see if they have a cheap upgrade to a low wattage energy efficient model. Keeps heat down, which keeps fan RPM down, which keeps dust down, which keeps your server running better longer. Also electricity savings, huzzah!

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      • MattSpellerM
        MattSpeller
        last edited by MattSpeller

        Also consider a 2U unit - my personal favourite is the R510 because old, cheap, powerful & 3.5" drives.

        2x L5630 2.13ghz 4core 40w
        64gb ram
        h700 512mb (no batt, but you have a good UPS right? riiiiiight? :))
        raid10
        6x1tb (2tb $20 more/drive)
        iDRAC6 enterprise
        redundant 750w
        ready rails (because you're worth it!)
        3yr XByte NBD
        $3015USD

        Edit: BIOS fan settings should be set to silent/quiet if they exist followed by temp monitoring under load to ensure it's safe. This will do wonders for it's long term life, especially if in a dusty environment like a closet or $diety knows where else. If you see temps over 50c to 60c on CPU under load, turn up the fans until you don't. Anything over 60c for long periods will just BBQ all the capacitors in your power supplies.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          The R510 is great. We have three.

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          • MattSpellerM
            MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller what's the HP equiv I can look up? dell seems to command a premium on ebay and I want an R510 for my own junk

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
              last edited by

              @MattSpeller said:

              @scottalanmiller what's the HP equiv I can look up? dell seems to command a premium on ebay and I want an R510 for my own junk

              xbyte is your ticket there. Nothing will compete in price.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                The closest HP is the DL380 e series. E = economy.

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                • NetworkNerdN
                  NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by NetworkNerd

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @MattSpeller said:

                  @scottalanmiller what's the HP equiv I can look up? dell seems to command a premium on ebay and I want an R510 for my own junk

                  xbyte is your ticket there. Nothing will compete in price.

                  Yep - through XByte the R610 with 6 300 GB 10K SAS, PERC6i, redundant PSUs, dual Intel Xeon E5520 @ 2.26 GHz, Broadcom NetXtreme II 5709c Dual Port Gigabit Ethernet cards (2 of these) is about $1500. AMAZING.

                  But I agree the R510 is worth a look. We have one that is an ESXi host at another site with 7200 RPM SATA drives, and it is running like a champ.

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                    hubtechagain
                    last edited by hubtechagain

                    You want a reason against buying refurbished servers from xbyte? i've got one....

                    Because you hate having all that money, and you want to spend it on something!

                    that being said i have about 7 or 8 xbyte servers in the wild and LOVE THEM. service is much better than dell, @BradfromxByte is just a swell dude to work with.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      That's Josh from Pertino.

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                        hubtechagain
                        last edited by

                        what are you talking about scott?... 😕

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                        • MattSpellerM
                          MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @MattSpeller said:

                          @scottalanmiller what's the HP equiv I can look up? dell seems to command a premium on ebay and I want an R510 for my own junk

                          xbyte is your ticket there. Nothing will compete in price.

                          maybe in the USA, not in Canada - exchange rate is just murder

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                            brendan pitstop nz
                            last edited by

                            i agree - preaching to the choir
                            refurb would be more than adequate. why spend bucket loads of cash when you can spend a fraction for the (same) capability as the work load looks pretty darn minor.

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                            • NetworkNerdN
                              NetworkNerd
                              last edited by

                              What about refurbished UPS units? Have any folks here used them with success?

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                                hubtechagain
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                                hrm. as long as the battery is good/new i wouldn't mind i dont think. never had a refurb ups though

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
                                  last edited by

                                  @NetworkNerd said:

                                  What about refurbished UPS units? Have any folks here used them with success?

                                  Definitely. Refurbed means that it has been fixed. Refurbed is often better than new because it has more testing. I can't really think of any business product I would not prefer refurbed all other factors being equal.

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @NetworkNerd
                                    last edited by

                                    @NetworkNerd said:

                                    What about refurbished UPS units? Have any folks here used them with success?

                                    Refurb'd UPS are awesome savings if you can find some. Just make sure they got NEW batteries and not refurb'd / "tested" batteries.

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                                    • StrongBadS
                                      StrongBad @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @NetworkNerd said:

                                      What about refurbished UPS units? Have any folks here used them with success?

                                      Refurb'd UPS are awesome savings if you can find some. Just make sure they got NEW batteries and not refurb'd / "tested" batteries.

                                      What would be wrong with refurbed batteries?

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                                      • MattSpellerM
                                        MattSpeller @StrongBad
                                        last edited by

                                        @StrongBad unlike lead acid car batteries that can be somewhat refurbished UPS units use AGM (absorbent glass mat) or VRLA (valve regulated for (higher current) lead acid absorbent glass mat) which can not be refurbished much at all and should just be recycled after 3 years.

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                                        • StrongBadS
                                          StrongBad
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                                          Can't they just replace those parts?

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                                          • MattSpellerM
                                            MattSpeller @StrongBad
                                            last edited by MattSpeller

                                            @StrongBad Nope, it's all sealed up together to prevent gas escaping (or control it's release)

                                            http://www.gpbatteryygn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/vrla-battery-1024x695.jpg

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