@dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@scottalanmiller i've been waiting for you lot to wake up

We are awake!!

Congrats. It's almost night here

@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Visiting my wife

Is she not well?

Actually... nope. Hospital. Nothing life threatening, but a big PITA we have to live with.

Uck, hope she gets out quick.

Three to five days

@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Visiting my wife

Is she not well?

Actually... nope. Hospital. Nothing life threatening, but a big PITA we have to live with.

Visiting my wife

@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@black3dynamite said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@scotth: I will deploy a hybrid SW two node cluster soon. Many other solutions use KVM under the hood, which means that you will have to either script something or do agent based backups.

With Hyper-V, you just use Veeam (or whatever you prefer)

I use agents regardless

And I don't know why, as it conterfeits some of the virtualization fundamentals, IMHO. But I don't want to start this discussion now.

It doesn't. That functionality is in no way part of virtualization or its value. It's just one of the many myths than people have mistakenly add to virtualization.

Even Veeam with Hyper-V/VMware.... there is no universal agentless capability. So if it was an intrinsic part of virtualization, that would imply no virtualization product has been made yet.

Don't you agree that adding agents to each and every guest VM adds to costs and complexity compared to a "simple" hypervisor based backup?

It shouldn't be that hard to use an deployment tool to install the agent.

It's not just that. You need to maintain the agents, there may be additional costs, more complex licensing etc

You are relying on "might be"... it might be more complex and more costly. But it might be less complex and less costly. So that argument works equally in reverse.

So what are you using for backups? What kind of licensing? Which product?

@black3dynamite said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@scotth: I will deploy a hybrid SW two node cluster soon. Many other solutions use KVM under the hood, which means that you will have to either script something or do agent based backups.

With Hyper-V, you just use Veeam (or whatever you prefer)

I use agents regardless

And I don't know why, as it conterfeits some of the virtualization fundamentals, IMHO. But I don't want to start this discussion now.

It doesn't. That functionality is in no way part of virtualization or its value. It's just one of the many myths than people have mistakenly add to virtualization.

Even Veeam with Hyper-V/VMware.... there is no universal agentless capability. So if it was an intrinsic part of virtualization, that would imply no virtualization product has been made yet.

Don't you agree that adding agents to each and every guest VM adds to costs and complexity compared to a "simple" hypervisor based backup?

It shouldn't be that hard to use an deployment tool to install the agent.

It's not just that. You need to maintain the agents, there may be additional costs, more complex licensing etc

@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@scotth: I will deploy a hybrid SW two node cluster soon. Many other solutions use KVM under the hood, which means that you will have to either script something or do agent based backups.

With Hyper-V, you just use Veeam (or whatever you prefer)

I use agents regardless

And I don't know why, as it conterfeits some of the virtualization fundamentals, IMHO. But I don't want to start this discussion now.

It doesn't. That functionality is in no way part of virtualization or its value. It's just one of the many myths than people have mistakenly add to virtualization.

Even Veeam with Hyper-V/VMware.... there is no universal agentless capability. So if it was an intrinsic part of virtualization, that would imply no virtualization product has been made yet.

Don't you agree that adding agents to each and every guest VM adds to costs and complexity compared to a "simple" hypervisor based backup?

@momurda said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@ccwtech said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Explaining to @Tech1 that Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy is different than Spaceballs

Spaceballs: Comb the desert
The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy: Marvin

PS: Better read the books.

Spaceballs the movie: the NOVEL!!!! Where the real money from the movie is made!!!

I thought it was moichandising?

Spaceballs, the Flamethrower. Kids love 'em

Spaceballs 2: The Quest for More Money
Pity that was never made.

Same is true for Kung Pow: Fist of Fury. Some great movies don't get a second chance while the greatest crap ...

@scottalanmiller said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@thwr said in Small Shop Hyperconverged Options:

@scotth: I will deploy a hybrid SW two node cluster soon. Many other solutions use KVM under the hood, which means that you will have to either script something or do agent based backups.

With Hyper-V, you just use Veeam (or whatever you prefer)

I use agents regardless

And I don't know why, as it conterfeits some of the virtualization fundamentals, IMHO. But I don't want to start this discussion now.

@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

We should really not ruin the movies for @tech1, lol.

We can switch to Robin Hood: Men in Tights.

Can offer lip sync speaking in two languages

@scotth: I will deploy a hybrid SW two node cluster soon. Many other solutions use KVM under the hood, which means that you will have to either script something or do agent based backups.

With Hyper-V, you just use Veeam (or whatever you prefer)

@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@rojoloco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@ccwtech said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Explaining to @Tech1 that Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy is different than Spaceballs

Spaceballs: Comb the desert
The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy: Marvin

PS: Better read the books.

Spaceballs the movie: the NOVEL!!!! Where the real money from the movie is made!!!

I thought it was moichandising?

Spaceballs, the Flamethrower. Kids love 'em

@black3dynamite said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

@scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

@thwr said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

@scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

By default, Dragonfly disables both root and password-based logins from SSH. This can be a big pain if you are just using the system casually or temporarily. To fix this you need to first edit the configuration file for SSHD:

vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config

Then to allow root to log in via SSH make PermitRootLogin be "yes":

PermitRootLogin yes

And to allow root or any user to use passwords for SSH login change PasswordAuthentication to "yes".

PasswordAuthentication yes

You'll need to restart SSHD for this to take effect:

/etc/rc.d/sshd restart

A whole bunch of Linux distros do the same. You should choose a more general name for the thread - like "Allowing root password login via SSH".

Anyway, it's generally a better idea to use key based logins.

This is the only OS I know that does this by default. People looking for Dragonfly issues will run into it.

Debian disallows root login not sure about passwords.

At least Ubuntu is

PermitRootLogin without-password

by default

@scottalanmiller said in Allowing Root Password Login via SSH to Dragonfly BSD:

By default, Dragonfly disables both root and password-based logins from SSH. This can be a big pain if you are just using the system casually or temporarily. To fix this you need to first edit the configuration file for SSHD:

vi /etc/ssh/sshd_config

Then to allow root to log in via SSH make PermitRootLogin be "yes":

PermitRootLogin yes

And to allow root or any user to use passwords for SSH login change PasswordAuthentication to "yes".

PasswordAuthentication yes

You'll need to restart SSHD for this to take effect:

/etc/rc.d/sshd restart

A whole bunch of Linux distros do the same. You should choose a more general name for the thread - like "Allowing root password login via SSH".

Anyway, it's generally a better idea to use key based logins.

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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@ccwtech said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Explaining to @Tech1 that Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy is different than Spaceballs

Spaceballs: Comb the desert
The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy: Marvin

PS: Better read the books.

Dunno what spaceballs and hitchhikers guide are, but i heard the names.

Two of the most important movies in history. Followed by other masterpieces like Army of Darkness, Kelly’s Heroes, Kung Pow: Enter the Fist or Monty Python’s Life of Brian.

Hitchhikers was a terrible movie, but an incredible book.

Aye. But maybe the movie makes more people reading the books. That's why the movie is somehow "good".

@tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@ccwtech said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Explaining to @Tech1 that Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy is different than Spaceballs

Spaceballs: Comb the desert
The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy: Marvin

PS: Better read the books.

Dunno what spaceballs and hitchhikers guide are, but i heard the names.

Two of the most important movies in history. Followed by other masterpieces like Army of Darkness, Kelly’s Heroes, Kung Pow: Enter the Fist or Monty Python’s Life of Brian.

@tim_g said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

@ccwtech said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Explaining to @Tech1 that Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy is different than Spaceballs

Spaceballs: Comb the desert
The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy: Marvin

PS: Better read the books.

Dunno what spaceballs and hitchhikers guide are, but i heard the names.

Are you kidding me?

@ccwtech said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

Explaining to @Tech1 that Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy is different than Spaceballs

Spaceballs: Comb the desert
The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy: Marvin

PS: Better read the books.

Added the first VLAN to my inherited network. But traffic wasn't forwarded to the access switch where I plugged my notebook in. Stupid me: MSTP. Nearly an hour wasted.