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    BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer

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    • BRRABillB
      BRRABill
      last edited by

      OK, so it's back up and running.

      First question:
      How do I check to see if there are updates available, and if so install them?

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by

        @BRRABill in XenCenter (or XO if you have it) the updates will be listed as Alerts to install.

        Being a new install there are certainly some updates, I just got an alert to update our installation as well.

        it might take a bit for the alert to generate.

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        • coliverC
          coliver
          last edited by coliver

          The alert feature is really nice. Be aware that the default install really doesn't have much room where it stores patches. So you may have to go in and clean up old patch files if/when that gets full.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            So for right now, there is really nothing to do. It will eventually alert me through XenCenter that updates are ready.

            There is no way to force it update?

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            • coliverC
              coliver @BRRABill
              last edited by coliver

              @BRRABill said:

              So for right now, there is really nothing to do. It will eventually alert me through XenCenter that updates are ready.

              There is no way to force it update?

              There is but it is a third party application, called patcher, that you run from the CLI.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
                last edited by

                Back to Hyper-V! LOL, just kidding, I'll give it a chance.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                  last edited by

                  @BRRABill said:

                  So for right now, there is really nothing to do. It will eventually alert me through XenCenter that updates are ready.

                  There is no way to force it update?

                  right, I think that you are expecting complications and imagining that it will be hard when it is probably ready to go already. Make a VM and start to play!

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    OK, next question.

                    How do I get a file onto my XenServer? Say I wanted to copy something over to it?

                    Or something I would like to try is to take my existing VHD and see if it will use it.

                    I get the gist I can import the VHD, but can you simply "store" stuff on the XenServer?

                    The equivalent in Windows of opening File Explorer and just copying a file to a folder on a drive.

                    Also, can it access files on a USB drive I plug in?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      You have to have an ISO repo that XS can access and boot your VM ISO from.

                      This could be a Windows Share or you can build a local ISO repo right into XenServer.

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said:

                        OK, next question.

                        How do I get a file onto my XenServer? Say I wanted to copy something over to it?

                        Or something I would like to try is to take my existing VHD and see if it will use it.

                        I get the gist I can import the VHD, but can you simply "store" stuff on the XenServer?

                        The equivalent in Windows of opening File Explorer and just copying a file to a folder on a drive.

                        Also, can it access files on a USB drive I plug in?

                        You would never want to do this... not really ever. If you want a file server make a VM. If you want to import a VHD use the proper tools to do it.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said:

                          You would never want to do this... not really ever. If you want a file server make a VM. If you want to import a VHD use the proper tools to do it.

                          Gotcha.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee
                            last edited by

                            Where is that "single pane of glass" to manage XenServer & Hyper-V ❗

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @FATeknollogee said:

                              Where is that "single pane of glass" to manage XenServer & Hyper-V ❗

                              For Xen and XenServer that would be Xen Orchestra or Xen Orchestra Appliance.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @FATeknollogee said:

                                Where is that "single pane of glass" to manage XenServer & Hyper-V ❗

                                XO for XenServer is totally free and epically good. More single pain that anything anyone else has. Backups, replication, multiple machines, etc. all in one pain. Hyper-V you have to buy tools to get just part of that. XO is open source and fully free. So awesome. AND their team is active here and might attend MangoCon too!

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  @BRRABill said:

                                  OK, next question.

                                  How do I get a file onto my XenServer? Say I wanted to copy something over to it?

                                  Or something I would like to try is to take my existing VHD and see if it will use it.

                                  I get the gist I can import the VHD, but can you simply "store" stuff on the XenServer?

                                  The equivalent in Windows of opening File Explorer and just copying a file to a folder on a drive.

                                  Also, can it access files on a USB drive I plug in?

                                  You can't for a reason. You can't on Vmware either. This is not what this is for. This is your hypervisor. It has one singular role, to run your VMs. If you need storage, that goes in a VM!

                                  If you do this with HyperV, you violate your licensing, by the way. Using it as a file server would not fall under the HV license.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by

                                    @FATeknollogee said:

                                    Where is that "single pane of glass" to manage XenServer & Hyper-V ❗

                                    Hyper-V has the Hyper-V manager built into Windows. If you want more then that SCVMM is really decent but costs money.

                                    XenCenter is decent single pane management, but so is Xen Orchestra which is just fantastic.

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                                    • FATeknollogeeF
                                      FATeknollogee @FATeknollogee
                                      last edited by

                                      @FATeknollogee said:

                                      Where is that "single pane of glass" to manage XenServer & Hyper-V ❗

                                      I hit send before I was done, I meant to "tag" @olivier & add a 😃

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee @FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by FATeknollogee

                                        @FATeknollogee said:

                                        Not to side track this thread (apologies to @BRRABill ), what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

                                        To all you XS experts, what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

                                        Similar to Starwind in the Windows world

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403
                                          last edited by

                                          Any hyperconverged hardware that is capable of running XenServer would be....

                                          So any of them?

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by

                                            @FATeknollogee said:

                                            @FATeknollogee said:

                                            Not to side track this thread (apologies to @BRRABill ), what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

                                            To all you XS experts, what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

                                            Is Scale an example of hyperconverged? I don't think there is a single vendor that does that with XenServer.

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