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    • coliverC
      coliver @BRRABill
      last edited by

      @BRRABill I may have to retract my previous statement. An admin I used to work with used to just use RDP for everything. Although it wasn't until this past year that he actually virtualized anything.

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        Alex Sage @BRRABill
        last edited by

        @BRRABill said:

        The option that got me was...

        Enable thin provisioning (Optimized storage for XenDesktop)

        Figured it would have nothing to do with the XenServer install.

        This got me my first time too!

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill
          last edited by

          OK, so it's back up and running.

          First question:
          How do I check to see if there are updates available, and if so install them?

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          • DustinB3403D
            DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @BRRABill in XenCenter (or XO if you have it) the updates will be listed as Alerts to install.

            Being a new install there are certainly some updates, I just got an alert to update our installation as well.

            it might take a bit for the alert to generate.

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            • coliverC
              coliver
              last edited by coliver

              The alert feature is really nice. Be aware that the default install really doesn't have much room where it stores patches. So you may have to go in and clean up old patch files if/when that gets full.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
                last edited by

                So for right now, there is really nothing to do. It will eventually alert me through XenCenter that updates are ready.

                There is no way to force it update?

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                • coliverC
                  coliver @BRRABill
                  last edited by coliver

                  @BRRABill said:

                  So for right now, there is really nothing to do. It will eventually alert me through XenCenter that updates are ready.

                  There is no way to force it update?

                  There is but it is a third party application, called patcher, that you run from the CLI.

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                  • BRRABillB
                    BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    Back to Hyper-V! LOL, just kidding, I'll give it a chance.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                      last edited by

                      @BRRABill said:

                      So for right now, there is really nothing to do. It will eventually alert me through XenCenter that updates are ready.

                      There is no way to force it update?

                      right, I think that you are expecting complications and imagining that it will be hard when it is probably ready to go already. Make a VM and start to play!

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                      • BRRABillB
                        BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        OK, next question.

                        How do I get a file onto my XenServer? Say I wanted to copy something over to it?

                        Or something I would like to try is to take my existing VHD and see if it will use it.

                        I get the gist I can import the VHD, but can you simply "store" stuff on the XenServer?

                        The equivalent in Windows of opening File Explorer and just copying a file to a folder on a drive.

                        Also, can it access files on a USB drive I plug in?

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          You have to have an ISO repo that XS can access and boot your VM ISO from.

                          This could be a Windows Share or you can build a local ISO repo right into XenServer.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @BRRABill
                            last edited by

                            @BRRABill said:

                            OK, next question.

                            How do I get a file onto my XenServer? Say I wanted to copy something over to it?

                            Or something I would like to try is to take my existing VHD and see if it will use it.

                            I get the gist I can import the VHD, but can you simply "store" stuff on the XenServer?

                            The equivalent in Windows of opening File Explorer and just copying a file to a folder on a drive.

                            Also, can it access files on a USB drive I plug in?

                            You would never want to do this... not really ever. If you want a file server make a VM. If you want to import a VHD use the proper tools to do it.

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                            • BRRABillB
                              BRRABill @coliver
                              last edited by

                              @coliver said:

                              You would never want to do this... not really ever. If you want a file server make a VM. If you want to import a VHD use the proper tools to do it.

                              Gotcha.

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                Where is that "single pane of glass" to manage XenServer & Hyper-V ❗

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                                • DustinB3403D
                                  DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @FATeknollogee said:

                                  Where is that "single pane of glass" to manage XenServer & Hyper-V ❗

                                  For Xen and XenServer that would be Xen Orchestra or Xen Orchestra Appliance.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by

                                    @FATeknollogee said:

                                    Where is that "single pane of glass" to manage XenServer & Hyper-V ❗

                                    XO for XenServer is totally free and epically good. More single pain that anything anyone else has. Backups, replication, multiple machines, etc. all in one pain. Hyper-V you have to buy tools to get just part of that. XO is open source and fully free. So awesome. AND their team is active here and might attend MangoCon too!

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                      last edited by

                                      @BRRABill said:

                                      OK, next question.

                                      How do I get a file onto my XenServer? Say I wanted to copy something over to it?

                                      Or something I would like to try is to take my existing VHD and see if it will use it.

                                      I get the gist I can import the VHD, but can you simply "store" stuff on the XenServer?

                                      The equivalent in Windows of opening File Explorer and just copying a file to a folder on a drive.

                                      Also, can it access files on a USB drive I plug in?

                                      You can't for a reason. You can't on Vmware either. This is not what this is for. This is your hypervisor. It has one singular role, to run your VMs. If you need storage, that goes in a VM!

                                      If you do this with HyperV, you violate your licensing, by the way. Using it as a file server would not fall under the HV license.

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @FATeknollogee
                                        last edited by

                                        @FATeknollogee said:

                                        Where is that "single pane of glass" to manage XenServer & Hyper-V ❗

                                        Hyper-V has the Hyper-V manager built into Windows. If you want more then that SCVMM is really decent but costs money.

                                        XenCenter is decent single pane management, but so is Xen Orchestra which is just fantastic.

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                                        • FATeknollogeeF
                                          FATeknollogee @FATeknollogee
                                          last edited by

                                          @FATeknollogee said:

                                          Where is that "single pane of glass" to manage XenServer & Hyper-V ❗

                                          I hit send before I was done, I meant to "tag" @olivier & add a 😃

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                                          • FATeknollogeeF
                                            FATeknollogee @FATeknollogee
                                            last edited by FATeknollogee

                                            @FATeknollogee said:

                                            Not to side track this thread (apologies to @BRRABill ), what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

                                            To all you XS experts, what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

                                            Similar to Starwind in the Windows world

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