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    BRRABill's Field Report With XenServer

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
      last edited by

      @JaredBusch said:

      @Dashrender said:

      I don't know what a Datto device is, or the shadowprotect (is that a product?) is.

      Datto is a NAS and ShadowProtect is a software.

      Datto is a backup appliance build on ShadowProtect. It's an all in one much like Unitrends but unlike Unitrends, Datto buys the backup software from StorageCraft instead of making it themselves.

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      • BRRABillB
        BRRABill
        last edited by BRRABill

        So it was a partition issue in BOOT.INI.

        The partition was originally set to (2). I set (0) and got an NTOSKRNL error.

        I set it to (1) ... and the server booted. Or, it is is appearing to boot. We shall see.

        I also ran the XenServer "fixup" program. Anyone know if that is officially needed, or only if you run into problems? (I definitely needed it when importing the VHD.)

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        • BRRABillB
          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said:

          Isn't that how it is supposed to be restored? When I look at their vendor's guide that's what it says to do.

          They have their own Datto branded recovery environment you are supposed to use. But, it never seems to work.

          Me being on Server 2003 causes issue too, I think.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
            last edited by

            Well, now there is another issue, but I know how to fix this one. (Had the same issue on a BMR of my other failed server.)

            Strangely enough, there is a post on SW about this error (that was not fixed) but the posted posted a picture of his monitor, which was the old fashioned type. (This was in 2009.)

            @scottalanmiller said:
            "So that is what a CRT looks like. Are you working in a museum? ;)"

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill
              last edited by

              That issue is now fixed! 🙂

              Good thing I remembered that!
              https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/b3f18d7a-8c95-42dc-a0bd-3ca81e26d669/error-on-boot-stop-c0000135-unable-to-locate-component-csrsrvdll-not-found-reinstalling-the?forum=winservergen

              Well after a few blips, it seems to have worked.

              Should I install XenTools?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                Yes, you always need the PV drivers for any hypervisor that you want to use (including Hyper-V) or you get crappy performance.

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                • BRRABillB
                  BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  Yes, you always need the PV drivers for any hypervisor that you want to use (including Hyper-V) or you get crappy performance.

                  Are those included in the install "XenTools" option?

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @BRRABill
                    last edited by

                    @BRRABill said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    Yes, you always need the PV drivers for any hypervisor that you want to use (including Hyper-V) or you get crappy performance.

                    Are those included in the install "XenTools" option?

                    They are the XenTools.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said:

                      They are the XenTools.

                      Okie dokie!

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @BRRABill
                        last edited by

                        @BRRABill said:

                        @coliver said:

                        They are the XenTools.

                        Okie dokie!

                        Well, I should say, they are included, sorry. There is some additional stuff in the Windows XenTools that does some other things. Mostly it is the PV drivers you are installing though.

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                        • BRRABillB
                          BRRABill
                          last edited by

                          I was not able to adjust memory before. Now after XenTools I can. (You can also see memory usage which is nice.)

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by

                            @FATeknollogee said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @FATeknollogee said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @FATeknollogee said:

                            @FATeknollogee said:

                            Not to side track this thread (apologies to @BRRABill ), what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

                            To all you XS experts, what is the "hyperconverged" equivalent in the XenServer world?

                            Similar to Starwind in the Windows world

                            XenServer is natively that in the Xen world. Nothing additional needed.

                            If you had 2, 3 or more XS bare metal installs with local drives, how do you "hyperconverge" all the local disks?

                            Are you saying with XS the "hyperconvergence" just auto-magically happens?

                            Of course not, but it doesn't for any platform. If you're setting up a greenfield situation, then you design it from the ground up with XS with single shared storage.

                            Let's try this again:

                            In Windows, you can take multiple boxes, add Starwind or Datacore = hyperconverged using local storage (no SAN needed).

                            How do you do the same thing with XS?

                            This can do HC for XenServer:
                            http://www.atlantiscomputing.com/products/atlantis-usx

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1
                              last edited by

                              If you REALLY REALLY WANT a gui to get HA setup and running on XenServer, maybe give HA-Lizard a look. Haven't used it myself yet (single host), but I've heard it talked about enough to remember it.... the name is kinda memorable.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @travisdh1
                                last edited by

                                @travisdh1 said:

                                If you REALLY REALLY WANT a gui to get HA setup and running on XenServer, maybe give HA-Lizard a look. Haven't used it myself yet (single host), but I've heard it talked about enough to remember it.... the name is kinda memorable.

                                It's something I want to configure as well, 2 new host, and then download the HA-Lizard client to both, supposedly it handles the entire configuration from what @halizard said in a previous post.

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                                • BRRABillB
                                  BRRABill
                                  last edited by

                                  XS (and XO) show the provisioned size of the virtual disk. Is there a way to show how much space it is actually taking up?

                                  (For example in Hyper-V you could just look at the size of the VHD.)

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                    last edited by

                                    @BRRABill said:

                                    XS (and XO) show the provisioned size of the virtual disk. Is there a way to show how much space it is actually taking up?

                                    (For example in Hyper-V you could just look at the size of the VHD.)

                                    Same, you either look at the storage device and query it and/or you look at the size of the filesystem image file.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      Yep there is.
                                      Go to the Dashboard first

                                      From the dashboard find the Storage Repository (SR)
                                      Click on it.
                                      0_1458834912641_1-dash.JPG

                                      Now scroll down a little and you'll see your VHDs

                                      0_1458834962492_2-VHD size.JPG

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        I fumbled around for about 5 mins before I bumped my way into this.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          or you look at the size of the filesystem image file.

                                          Is that functionality available in XC or XO?

                                          In Hyper-V you can right click the storage and it tells you provisioned size and size on disk.

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                                          • BRRABillB
                                            BRRABill @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender

                                            But that doesn't tell you virtual drive by virtual drive. Only the main XS drive. (Which you can also see in XC.)

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