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    VMware Axes the Workstation and Fusion Teams

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Kelly
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      @Kelly said:

      Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.

      There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?

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      • KellyK
        Kelly @scottalanmiller
        last edited by

        @scottalanmiller said:

        @Kelly said:

        Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.

        There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?

        They are running the computations locally on their laptop.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Kelly
          last edited by

          @Kelly said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          @Kelly said:

          Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.

          There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?

          They are running the computations locally on their laptop.

          Can't they run them on the base OS?

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          • KellyK
            Kelly @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Kelly said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            @Kelly said:

            Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.

            There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?

            They are running the computations locally on their laptop.

            Can't they run them on the base OS?

            The tools they need run much better in Linux, and these are all MBPs.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @aaron-closed account
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                @aaron said:

                This is disappointing, I like Fusion. I will never buy Parallels again after they started serving me pop-up advertising to the VM host.

                I never liked any of them. VirtualBox is So good.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @aaron-closed account
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                  @aaron said:

                  This is disappointing, I like Fusion. I will never buy Parallels again after they started serving me pop-up advertising to the VM host.

                  I have used Parallels since version 7 or so and have never seen this.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @Kelly
                    last edited by

                    @Kelly said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Kelly said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @Kelly said:

                    Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.

                    There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?

                    They are running the computations locally on their laptop.

                    Can't they run them on the base OS?

                    The tools they need run much better in Linux, and these are all MBPs.

                    The idea of running this locally seems weird - why wouldn't you want to use the power available in a DC instead of the mundane amount on a laptop? unless of course the DC is either overloaded or just has old junk hardware.

                    This whole situation just seems weird to me.

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                    • KellyK
                      Kelly @Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      @Dashrender said:

                      @Kelly said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Kelly said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @Kelly said:

                      Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.

                      There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?

                      They are running the computations locally on their laptop.

                      Can't they run them on the base OS?

                      The tools they need run much better in Linux, and these are all MBPs.

                      The idea of running this locally seems weird - why wouldn't you want to use the power available in a DC instead of the mundane amount on a laptop? unless of course the DC is either overloaded or just has old junk hardware.

                      This whole situation just seems weird to me.

                      Yup, decisions were made. Some good, some bad. Either way, that is the culture here, now. I'm working toward something that might move the compute to servers, but it will take time.

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                      • Deleted74295D
                        Deleted74295 Banned @Kelly
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                        @Kelly said:

                        We've already had one agency tell us that we cannot use any Lenovo hardware in support of their systems.

                        Falls off chair

                        An agency actually said no to Lenovo products?!?

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @Deleted74295
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                          @Breffni-Potter said:

                          @Kelly said:

                          We've already had one agency tell us that we cannot use any Lenovo hardware in support of their systems.

                          Falls off chair

                          An agency actually said no to Lenovo products?!?

                          Anyone paying any attention at all to security would be doing that right now. Not surprising at all.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Kelly
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                            @Kelly said:

                            We've already had one agency tell us that we cannot use any Lenovo hardware in support of their systems.

                            That is so awesome.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @travisdh1
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                              @travisdh1 said:

                              Anyone paying any attention at all to security would be doing that right now. Not surprising at all.

                              This is the surprising part..

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @travisdh1
                                last edited by

                                @travisdh1 said:

                                @Breffni-Potter said:

                                @Kelly said:

                                We've already had one agency tell us that we cannot use any Lenovo hardware in support of their systems.

                                Falls off chair

                                An agency actually said no to Lenovo products?!?

                                Anyone paying any attention at all to security would be doing that right now. Not surprising at all.

                                Yeah actually it's quite surprising that someone that high up would be willing to listen and do the right thing.

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                                • Deleted74295D
                                  Deleted74295 Banned @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  @travisdh1 said:

                                  Anyone paying any attention at all to security would be doing that right now. Not surprising at all.

                                  This is the surprising part..

                                  Hence my fall off the chair reaction...

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @Dashrender
                                    last edited by MattSpeller

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    The idea of running this locally seems weird - why wouldn't you want to use the power available in a DC instead of the mundane amount on a laptop?

                                    I used to enjoy workstation as it was a slick way to spin up vm's on my laptop for testing stuff. Switched to virtualbox and haven't looked back.

                                    Edit: related note, if you think that'd be handy for yourself too, get a 500gb SSD and 16/32GB of RAM. You can have VM's up and down in only seconds. This is on a cheap i5-3210M 2.5ghz, nothing fancy.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @MattSpeller
                                      last edited by

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      The idea of running this locally seems weird - why wouldn't you want to use the power available in a DC instead of the mundane amount on a laptop?

                                      I used to enjoy workstation as it was a slick way to spin up vm's on my laptop for testing stuff. Switched to virtualbox and haven't looked back.

                                      Edit: related note, if you think that'd be handy for yourself too, get a 500gb SSD and 16/32GB of RAM. You can have VM's up and down in only seconds. This is on a cheap i5-3210M 2.5ghz, nothing fancy.

                                      You're not the use case we were talking about though. They are crunching numbers, etc - that sounds like something that should be kept in-house (in datacenter), not randomly running on some laptop that someone takes home.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Depends how and where they are using the numbers and how much crunching needs to be done.

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                                        • MattSpellerM
                                          MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller I agree on @Dashrender with this one, production stuff should be on production gear unless it's a really tiny job

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @MattSpeller
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                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            The idea of running this locally seems weird - why wouldn't you want to use the power available in a DC instead of the mundane amount on a laptop?

                                            I used to enjoy workstation as it was a slick way to spin up vm's on my laptop for testing stuff. Switched to virtualbox and haven't looked back.

                                            Edit: related note, if you think that'd be handy for yourself too, get a 500gb SSD and 16/32GB of RAM. You can have VM's up and down in only seconds. This is on a cheap i5-3210M 2.5ghz, nothing fancy.

                                            I used VirtualBox, and then now if I need a VM with a GUI I just use KVM on my laptop. However, if I'm testing server stuff I just use LXC. It's so much faster.

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