VMware Axes the Workstation and Fusion Teams
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@mlnews said:
VMware, a division of EMC, a division itself of Dell, has laid off the entire desktop / type 2 virtualization teams that make their Workstation and Fusion products. Does this mean the end of the products or, as speculation has it, moving development to China?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/01/27/vmware_fusion_and_workstation_development_team_fired/
Moving the dev to China could affect government adoption. Now we just need a type 2 hypervisor that integrates tightly with XS.
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Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.
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@StrongBad said:
Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.
We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box), and what the government says they can use is typically applied to anyone downstream.
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Will it affect VMware? Their marketing is immense. People won't notice.
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@Breffni-Potter said:
Will it affect VMware? Their marketing is immense. People won't notice.
I would think that the average user of the above would be smarter than your average bear, and a bit more connected to IT related news. Perhpas not.
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@Kelly said:
@StrongBad said:
Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.
We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box), and what the government says they can use is typically applied to anyone downstream.
What do you use them for?
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@Breffni-Potter said:
Will it affect VMware? Their marketing is immense. People won't notice.
People are already noticing. My little slice of the world sees Vmware adoption in the negatives. Seems that they are near a tipping point.
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Breffni-Potter said:
Will it affect VMware? Their marketing is immense. People won't notice.
People are already noticing. My little slice of the world sees Vmware adoption in the negatives. Seems that they are near a tipping point.
I still think they won't
I'm basing this on the fact that Lenovo can get away with what it does and still see blind adoption.
VMware have not done anything that stupid or dangerous, so there'll be no reason for their group to jump ship.
Well...Unless the communist back door argument gets made.
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@StrongBad said:
@Kelly said:
@StrongBad said:
Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.
We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box), and what the government says they can use is typically applied to anyone downstream.
What do you use them for?
Our scientists run computations locally using VMs.
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@Breffni-Potter said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Breffni-Potter said:
Will it affect VMware? Their marketing is immense. People won't notice.
People are already noticing. My little slice of the world sees Vmware adoption in the negatives. Seems that they are near a tipping point.
I still think they won't
I'm basing this on the fact that Lenovo can get away with what it does and still see blind adoption.
VMware have not done anything that stupid or dangerous, so there'll be no reason for their group to jump ship.
Well...Unless the communist back door argument gets made.
It's a valid point. But, and I could easily be wrong, I feel like hypervisor selection is slightly more rigorous than desktop selection.
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@Kelly said:
@StrongBad said:
@Kelly said:
@StrongBad said:
Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.
We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box), and what the government says they can use is typically applied to anyone downstream.
What do you use them for?
Our scientists run computations locally using VMs.
And the upstream agencies would dictate the available hypervisor options?
is this like Linux computation nodes running on Windows desktops?
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@Kelly said:
@StrongBad said:
Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.
We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box),
Might I ask - Why?
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@Dashrender said:
@Kelly said:
@StrongBad said:
Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.
We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box),
Might I ask - Why?
Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.
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@StrongBad said:
@Kelly said:
@StrongBad said:
@Kelly said:
@StrongBad said:
Do many government agencies in the west use type 2 virtualization? I'm not saying they don't, but don't know where they would, either.
We are a government contractor and use a lot of type 2 hypervisors (mostly virtual box), and what the government says they can use is typically applied to anyone downstream.
What do you use them for?
Our scientists run computations locally using VMs.
And the upstream agencies would dictate the available hypervisor options?
is this like Linux computation nodes running on Windows desktops?
Upstream can dictate what they will allow their data to sit on or they won't give us their data. We've already had one agency tell us that we cannot use any Lenovo hardware in support of their systems.
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@Kelly said:
Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.
There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Kelly said:
Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.
There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?
They are running the computations locally on their laptop.
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@Kelly said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Kelly said:
Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.
There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?
They are running the computations locally on their laptop.
Can't they run them on the base OS?
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@scottalanmiller said:
@Kelly said:
@scottalanmiller said:
@Kelly said:
Flexibility and control mostly. So they can work from home or remotely without the tax of VPN.
There must be a piece missing here, how does the VirtualBox instance remove the need for a VPN?
They are running the computations locally on their laptop.
Can't they run them on the base OS?
The tools they need run much better in Linux, and these are all MBPs.
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@aaron said:
This is disappointing, I like Fusion. I will never buy Parallels again after they started serving me pop-up advertising to the VM host.
I never liked any of them. VirtualBox is So good.
