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    Should I take the same money to go back to the same job?

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      Slamming the phone is figurative for those of us from the phone and cradle era. Do not slap your iPhone around.

      LOL - I can see it now.. slam iphone = sad face and lost extra money

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        Slamming the phone is figurative for those of us from the phone and cradle era. Do not slap your iPhone around.

        Gods, I miss that pressure release at times too.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          They need a "slam the phone" button that makes a slamming sound on the other end and automatically disconnects.

          It could be the "hang up with prejudice" button or something.

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          • StrongBadS
            StrongBad
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            Going back to the old job seems like a clearly bad idea. There is no incentive for you to consider it, it would seem.

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            • JoyJ
              Joy @JaredBusch
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              @JaredBusch said:

              @Joy said:

              It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.

              3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?

              Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?

              6 hours commute of total

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @Joy
                last edited by

                @Joy said:

                @JaredBusch said:

                @Joy said:

                It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.

                3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?

                Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?

                6 hours commute of total

                You do that every day?

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse
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                  Joy -

                  I think one what to work this out if you want ot just look at numbers is to factor every hour from when you close and lock your door heading to work and when you return to that door again at the endo f the day.

                  A three hour journey one way to the office is not a great way to start your day. Nor is it a good way to end it. Your 8 hour work day becomes a 14 hour day. Even if you are making more with the new company - you could be making less overall with just the commute.

                  Factor in your expenses and it just compounds that.

                  Now having said that What makes you happy? So often we make a choice about work solely based on money... But happiness trumps money.

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                  • JoyJ
                    Joy @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said:

                    @Joy said:

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @Joy said:

                    It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.

                    3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?

                    Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?

                    6 hours commute of total

                    You do that every day?

                    Sorry i was referring for the Old apartment that i been lived before in the province.
                    right now the commute should be 5 to 10 mins only but sometimes it will take 30 t0 45 mins due to traffic

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                    • JoyJ
                      Joy @gjacobse
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                      @gjacobse said:

                      Joy -

                      I think one what to work this out if you want ot just look at numbers is to factor every hour from when you close and lock your door heading to work and when you return to that door again at the endo f the day.

                      A three hour journey one way to the office is not a great way to start your day. Nor is it a good way to end it. Your 8 hour work day becomes a 14 hour day. Even if you are making more with the new company - you could be making less overall with just the commute.

                      Factor in your expenses and it just compounds that.

                      Now having said that What makes you happy? So often we make a choice about work solely based on money... But happiness trumps money.

                      Yes , I tried to do it first. and I'm always tired of my commute so i decided to look for bed space in the City.

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                      • JoyJ
                        Joy @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        @Joy said:

                        @JaredBusch said:

                        @Joy said:

                        It's 3 hours or more of commute because Traffic is worse.

                        3 hours one way? Or 3 hours commute time total?

                        Is it not possible to find an apartment any closer?

                        6 hours commute of total

                        You do that every day?

                        That was before i decided to look for bed space so that i don't need to go home everyday

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                        • JoyJ
                          Joy @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          They need a "slam the phone" button that makes a slamming sound on the other end and automatically disconnects.

                          It could be the "hang up with prejudice" button or something.

                          Guys, I can't really totally disconnect from them.. They are good people 🙂
                          I mean i started to grow up with them, they trust me to handle everything given that I'm Zero knowledge when i worked for them 😃

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Joy
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                            @Joy said:

                            Guys, I can't really totally disconnect from them.. They are good people 🙂
                            I mean i started to grow up with them, they trust me to handle everything given that I'm Zero knowledge when i worked for them 😃

                            But they've made it clear that they do not feel the same way towards you. They have made a point of telling you that you are worth less to them now than you were back then. They are completely insulting.

                            They are trying to use you and you should walk away from that situation. This is your career, your life. Don't throw it away as a "favor" to people who don't respect or care about you.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Joy
                              last edited by

                              @Joy said:

                              Guys, I can't really totally disconnect from them.. They are good people 🙂

                              Not in a career or job perspective to you. You are confusing which factors apply to job decisions.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                Have beers with them, go to karaoke... don't work for them until they decide you are worth treating as a professional.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @Joy
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                                  @Joy said:

                                  Sorry i was referring for the Old apartment that i been lived before in the province.
                                  right now the commute should be 5 to 10 mins only but sometimes it will take 30 t0 45 mins due to traffic

                                  Ok, now this is more clear.

                                  You could commute from home and have lower living expenses, but that is 3 hours one way.
                                  You have opted for bed space knowing it is higher living expenses, but much closer to work with only 15 minutes of commute time.

                                  So this part of things is how much does the higher cost of living affect your goals for income?

                                  Determine that and then you will be able to begin to determine how much more they would be required to offer you in order for you to take a job again with your prior employer.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    I agree with Jarad.
                                    You don't have to be paid as much as you are being paid at the city job to consider taking the province job. But using simple numbers.. let's say you make 100 more a week in the city job, but it costs you 30 in rent more for the city job. In that case you're actually only making 70 more than the old job. Plus there is value in the fact that you'll be at home every night, and not just on weekends.

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                                    • JoyJ
                                      Joy @JaredBusch
                                      last edited by

                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @Joy said:

                                      Sorry i was referring for the Old apartment that i been lived before in the province.
                                      right now the commute should be 5 to 10 mins only but sometimes it will take 30 t0 45 mins due to traffic

                                      Ok, now this is more clear.

                                      You could commute from home and have lower living expenses, but that is 3 hours one way.
                                      =Yes, and most of the time traffic is really worst

                                      You have opted for bed space knowing it is higher living expenses, but much closer to work with only 15 minutes of commute time.
                                      =True,

                                      So this part of things is how much does the higher cost of living affect your goals for income?

                                      =Yes, I was thinking additional about the tax

                                      Determine that and then you will be able to begin to determine how much more they would be required to offer you in order for you to take a job again with your prior employer.

                                      = I already asked them about it, They said same money, same responsibilities

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                                      • StrongBadS
                                        StrongBad @Joy
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                                        @Joy said:

                                        = I already asked them about it, They said same money, same responsibilities

                                        Don't ask, tell. This is not for them to decide. They need you, you don't want them. You tell them what your numbers are and end it at that. Don't let them make any decision except to accept your offer or not. This is not something for you to let them control. The power is yours unless you give it up.

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                                        • JoyJ
                                          Joy @StrongBad
                                          last edited by Joy

                                          @StrongBad said:

                                          @Joy said:

                                          = I already asked them about it, They said same money, same responsibilities

                                          Don't ask, tell. This is not for them to decide. They need you, you don't want them. You tell them what your numbers are and end it at that. Don't let them make any decision except to accept your offer or not. This is not something for you to let them control. The power is yours unless you give it up.

                                          Hmm okay I'll do that just in case they will ask me again.
                                          I need to Weigh my decision

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                                          • StrongBadS
                                            StrongBad @Joy
                                            last edited by

                                            @Joy said:

                                            @StrongBad said:

                                            @Joy said:

                                            = I already asked them about it, They said same money, same responsibilities

                                            Don't ask, tell. This is not for them to decide. They need you, you don't want them. You tell them what your numbers are and end it at that. Don't let them make any decision except to accept your offer or not. This is not something for you to let them control. The power is yours unless you give it up.

                                            Hmm okay I'll do that just in case they will ask me again.
                                            I need to weight my decision making .

                                            No need to wait for them. Determine the amount that you want for the job and make an offer to them. You are the driver here.

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