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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
      last edited by IT-ADMIN

      @Dashrender said:

      And you'll need to expose your PBX to the internet to make this work.

      not necessarily, a port forward will do the job without exposing you PBX with a public ip

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        @IT-ADMIN said:

        http://www.ozekiphone.com/voip-how-to-add-a-webphone-to-your-website-with-ozeki-xe-pbx-724.html

        like this one : http://www.ozekiphone.com/voip-how-to-add-a-webphone-to-your-website-with-ozeki-xe-pbx-724.html

        I don't see a web phone available there. Can you use their web phone product without their PBX?

        That's probably the problem the OP is running into. Can't seem to make it work directly - which it's probably not meant to.

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          IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          @IT-ADMIN said:

          http://www.ozekiphone.com/voip-how-to-add-a-webphone-to-your-website-with-ozeki-xe-pbx-724.html

          like this one : http://www.ozekiphone.com/voip-how-to-add-a-webphone-to-your-website-with-ozeki-xe-pbx-724.html

          I don't see a web phone available there. Can you use their web phone product without their PBX?

          as far as i'm concerned you cannot,
          but really it a very very good feature that allows you to increase your incoming phone calls and bring new costumers

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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            @IT-ADMIN said:

            @Dashrender said:

            And you'll need to expose your PBX to the internet to make this work.

            not necessarily, a port forward will do the job without exposing you PBX with a public ip

            Still exposed, but not fully. Better than nothing.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
              last edited by

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              @scottalanmiller said:

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              @IT-ADMIN said:

              http://www.ozekiphone.com/voip-how-to-add-a-webphone-to-your-website-with-ozeki-xe-pbx-724.html

              like this one : http://www.ozekiphone.com/voip-how-to-add-a-webphone-to-your-website-with-ozeki-xe-pbx-724.html

              I don't see a web phone available there. Can you use their web phone product without their PBX?

              as far as i'm concerned you cannot,
              but really it a very very good feature that allows you to increase your incoming phone calls and bring new costumers

              It's a great feature. But it is separate from the PBX code. You just have to go find a web phone that you like and use that. No reason to have it connected with the PBX itself.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said:

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                @Dashrender said:

                And you'll need to expose your PBX to the internet to make this work.

                not necessarily, a port forward will do the job without exposing you PBX with a public ip

                Still exposed, but not fully. Better than nothing.

                I'm not sure how this is different? OK it's a bit different, and it's exactly how I would expect nearly anyone to set it up, only opening the required ports to the outside.

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                • IT-ADMINI
                  IT-ADMIN
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                  i think if you use a simple webphone (without being associated with any PBX) you will not be able to route the call to a hard phone, it will be kind of a skype call which is not practical in our business at all, the agent must answers calls with a hard phone

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                  • IT-ADMINI
                    IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    @Dashrender said:

                    And you'll need to expose your PBX to the internet to make this work.

                    not necessarily, a port forward will do the job without exposing you PBX with a public ip

                    Still exposed, but not fully. Better than nothing.

                    I'm not sure how this is different? OK it's a bit different, and it's exactly how I would expect nearly anyone to set it up, only opening the required ports to the outside.

                    yes but there is a difference between giving your PBX a public ip or put it in the DMZ and port forward

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
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                      Skype can be answered with a traditional phone, at least consumer based ones. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a module for some PBX (maybe not FreePBX) to accept Skype calls.

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                      • IT-ADMINI
                        IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        port forward is more secure than exposing your entire PBX to the cloud

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @IT-ADMIN
                          last edited by

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          And you'll need to expose your PBX to the internet to make this work.

                          not necessarily, a port forward will do the job without exposing you PBX with a public ip

                          Still exposed, but not fully. Better than nothing.

                          I'm not sure how this is different? OK it's a bit different, and it's exactly how I would expect nearly anyone to set it up, only opening the required ports to the outside.

                          yes but there is a difference between giving your PBX a public ip or put it in the DMZ and port forward

                          Sure, but I also didn't say to give it a public IP, I said that you'd need to expose it to the internet - which you do through a DMZ NAT Port setup as well as by giving a public IP. 🙂

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                            IT-ADMIN @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            Sure, but I also didn't say to give it a public IP, I said that you'd need to expose it to the internet - which you do through a DMZ NAT Port setup as well as by giving a public IP. 🙂

                            sure i understand what you mean, i just get scared by the term exposing lol, i prefer using the term port forward for security reason 🙂

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
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                              @IT-ADMIN said:

                              port forward is more secure than exposing your entire PBX to the cloud

                              Very true

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by JaredBusch

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                port forward is more secure than exposing your entire PBX to the cloud

                                Very true

                                And also completely irrelevant. Because to make this work you are port forwarding the ports for a device to register to your PBX. This is a huge attack vector and not something you ever want to do without very solid IP restrictions IMO.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch
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                                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                                  ozeki XE IP PBX

                                  ok, I just read up on the Ozeki website.

                                  This is a gimmick that I would never want setup.

                                  Who in their right mind wants to allow anyone in the world to go to your webpage and then call any number they want?

                                  You are wanting to pay for everyone to call whoever they want?

                                  That is what you will be getting into with just a single configuration error.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    ozeki XE IP PBX

                                    ok, I just read up on the Ozeki website.

                                    This is a gimmick that I would never want setup.

                                    Who in their right mind wants to allow anyone in the world to go to your webpage and then call any number they want?

                                    You are wanting to pay for everyone to call whoever they want?

                                    That is what you will be getting into with just a single configuration error.

                                    In his defense, I once had Xerox do basically the same thing with POTS lines. I ended up with a home phone with unlimited (ha ha, just one line) global calling, for free.

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                      @JaredBusch said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                                      port forward is more secure than exposing your entire PBX to the cloud

                                      Very true

                                      And also completely irrelevant. Because to make this work you are port forwarding the ports for a device to register to your PBX. This is a huge attack vector and not something you ever want to do without very solid IP restrictions IMO.

                                      While I understand the thought process here, Have you seen successful attacks on this vector? Completely disabling this does limit some pretty cool options - like VOIPER on your phone acting like a PBX phone.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        While I understand the thought process here, Have you seen successful attacks on this vector? Completely disabling this does limit some pretty cool options - like VOIPER on your phone acting like a PBX phone.

                                        Through forwarded ports? Yes.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          While I understand the thought process here, Have you seen successful attacks on this vector? Completely disabling this does limit some pretty cool options - like VOIPER on your phone acting like a PBX phone.

                                          Through forwarded ports? Yes.

                                          Yes, through forwarded ports - I can think of nearly no reason to put something directly on the public internet.

                                          Though - that brings up a question - how do you secure cloud services when you buy a server through them? Correct me if I'm wrong, you are pretty much stuck with only using the built-in software firewall on the server, right? Or paying some additional fee for them to NAT/firewall you, if that's even an option.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Though - that brings up a question - how do you secure cloud services when you buy a server through them?

                                            Cloud services are not yours to secure.

                                            I assume that you mean "how do you secure a cloud computing instance of IaaS?"

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