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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Drobo B800i SAN:

      Drobo B800i Front

      Drobo B800i Rack Kit

      Drobo B800i Back

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      • scottalanmillerS
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        Sadly the B800i lacks a cache or tiering option to leverage some SSD to really speed things up. To get this you have to move up to the B1200i which is quite a leap in price and moves you to hard core tiering with 9x RAID 6 spinning drives (an increase of about 15% in total maximum capacity), the option to use SAS instead of SATA (for a leap in base performance if so desired) and three bays of RAID 5 tiering for SSDs with gives you more performance, better protection and double the high speed tier capacity of the Drobo Mini. The B1200i also has more redundancy than the other options with a dual power supply option, is directly rack mountable (no kit needed) and has more robust networking options for the SAN connections.

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        • AmbarishrhA
          Ambarishrh
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          The idea is to use the B800i added to a mac mini server and enable file sharing. If not the B800i what could be the next best option?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
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            @Ambarishrh said:

            The idea is to use the B800i added to a mac mini server and enable file sharing. If not the B800i what could be the next best option?

            If you are definitely going to use the Mac Mini as a NAS head / file server then the direct connect (DAS) option is not a limiting factor, that's actually an improvement. The question would be, does 4x SATA 2.5" provide enough capacity to meet your needs? If so the Drobo Mini + Mac Mini combination might be very good.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              In between the two is the Drobo 5D.

              This unit is basically a merger of the B800i and the Mini. It is DAS only (no SAN) and does USB 3 and Thunderbolt. It is 5x 3.5" SATA plus mSATA Cache.

              That means it can deliver up to 24TB usable in RAID 6 configuration and has the mSATA cache slot to make the commonly used files much faster.

              Drobo 5d Front

              Drobo 5d Back

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              • AmbarishrhA
                Ambarishrh
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                Yes, I am thinking of using the MAC server as file server mainly due to the fact that almost all users are on MAC. Plus the storage is around 2 TB and growing, so mini might not be an option. In this case Drobo 5D would be a good choice?

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                • AmbarishrhA
                  Ambarishrh
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                  Based on my requirement, Drobo also gave me the option for 5D drobo.png

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Ambarishrh
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                    @Ambarishrh said:

                    Yes, I am thinking of using the MAC server as file server mainly due to the fact that almost all users are on MAC. Plus the storage is around 2 TB and growing, so mini might not be an option. In this case Drobo 5D would be a good choice?

                    Yes, the Drobo 5D would be good. You could do 5x 3TB drives for "cheap" and have 9TB usable storage with RAID 6 protection. Small spending, big storage. If you want more, go to 4TB drives and leap to 12TB usable.

                    The mSATA cache device will be well worth it for speed.

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                      A Former User @Ambarishrh
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                      @Ambarishrh said:

                      Yes, I am thinking of using the MAC server as file server mainly due to the fact that almost all users are on MAC. Plus the storage is around 2 TB and growing, so mini might not be an option. In this case Drobo 5D would be a good choice?

                      Why would the mini not be an option if you have mac users? you don't want to use a windows or linux file server if everyone is on macs. The Mac Pro is going to be overkill for a file server. You just need some good thunderbolt storage if doing Mac Mini

                      http://www.highpoint-tech.com/USA_new/series_NA381TB_overview.htm

                      https://thunderbolttechnology.net/product/netstor-rackmount-16-bay-storage

                      http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1067853-REG/lacie_9000476u_48tb_8big_thunderbolt_2.html

                      Not that I recomend the Lacie at all but just saying there are large thunderbolt systems out there. 2TB isn't really large though.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                        @thecreativeone91 said:

                        Why would the mini not be an option if you have mac users? you don't want to use a windows or linux file server if everyone is on macs. The Mac Pro is going to be overkill for a file server. You just need some good thunderbolt storage if doing Mac Mini

                        I had the same reaction for a second. But he's not talking about the Mac Mini, he meant the Drobo Mini will be too lean on capacity to use. The Mac Mini he is still agreeing is the right way to go for the file server component.

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                        • ?
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                          This one seems very interesting it even lets you mount the mac mini in side of it. http://www.amazon.com/HighPoint-Thunderbolt-Rackmount-Expansion-NA381TB/dp/B00GSQDRDC

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                            Not that I recomend the Lacie at all but just saying there are large thunderbolt systems out there. 2TB isn't really large though.

                            2TB is near the theoretical limits of the Drobo Mini. 24TB for the 5D. 48TB for the B800i. 56TB for the B1200i with tiering in place. 80TB for the B1200i without tiering.

                            All assuming RAID 6 for data protection. Any could do RAID 5 but that would not be wise at all.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                              @thecreativeone91 said:

                              This one seems very interesting it even lets you mount the mac mini in side of it. http://www.amazon.com/HighPoint-Thunderbolt-Rackmount-Expansion-NA381TB/dp/B00GSQDRDC

                              Okay, now that is a pretty cool unit. I kind of want one and I have no idea why.

                              Mac Mini Storage Server

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                              • AmbarishrhA
                                Ambarishrh @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @thecreativeone91 said:

                                Why would the mini not be an option if you have mac users? you don't want to use a windows or linux file server if everyone is on macs. The Mac Pro is going to be overkill for a file server. You just need some good thunderbolt storage if doing Mac Mini

                                I had the same reaction for a second. But he's not talking about the Mac Mini, he meant the Drobo Mini will be too lean on capacity to use. The Mac Mini he is still agreeing is the right way to go for the file server component.

                                Sorry about the confusion, yes i was talking about the Drobo mini, for server it will be a mac mini server. Thanks @scottalanmiller

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                                • AmbarishrhA
                                  Ambarishrh @scottalanmiller
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                                  wow the highpoint device looks nice! I like the idea of adding the mac mini inside that

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                                    A Former User @Ambarishrh
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                                    @Ambarishrh said:

                                    wow the highpoint device looks nice! I like the idea of adding the mac mini inside that

                                    Keep in mind the RAID PCIE card isn't included but, it's a real raid card if you buy one. for such an expandable device it's not a bad price.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                      @thecreativeone91 said:

                                      Keep in mind the RAID PCIE card isn't included but, it's a real raid card if you buy one. for such an expandable device it's not a bad price.

                                      And you can't put a PCIe RAID card into a Mac Mini, so that is pretty limiting. How would the Mini utilize this array?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
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                                        That's the nice thing about the Drobo devices, they are self contained storage arrays. You just plug them in and treat them like an external drive (because they are.) All of the RAID functions are contained in the Drobo.

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                                          A Former User @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @thecreativeone91 said:

                                          Keep in mind the RAID PCIE card isn't included but, it's a real raid card if you buy one. for such an expandable device it's not a bad price.

                                          And you can't put a PCIe RAID card into a Mac Mini, so that is pretty limiting. How would the Mini utilize this array?

                                          The Box has the PCIE Slots. You put it in there. and connect the mac Mini Via thunderbolt. It also means you can add more Nics, etc.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @A Former User
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                                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                                            The Box has the PCIE Slots. You put it in there. and connect the mac Mini Via thunderbolt. It also means you can add more Nics, etc.

                                            Oh okay, interesting. Not bad then.

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