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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Danp
      last edited by

      @Danp said:

      Have you looked at their latest price? How does this compare to your prior experience?

      $0.02 /minute outbound is double other carriers.

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      • DanpD
        Danp @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch said:

        $0.02 /minute outbound is double other carriers.

        Understood. That pricing appears to include the cost of the gateway / sip trunks. How would one compare this to the pricing from Voip.ms?

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Danp
          last edited by JaredBusch

          @Danp said:

          Understood. That pricing appears to include the cost of the gateway / sip trunks. How would one compare this to the pricing from Voip.ms?

          A DID through VoIP.ms is $0.89 - $1.50 per month in general. Ported numbers are almost always $0.99 per month.

          VoicePulse is showing $2.0832 per month for a DID, so comparable. Double the outbound rate is why I do not like it.

          If you are gong to have the DID not registered for part of the month, I guess this could be a good price. But most people put it on a PBX and it is always registered.

          The overall price is certainly not bad.

          VoicePulse has only 2 POP locations. One on the east coast and one on the west coast. Well technically there is a primary and a secondary at each coast, I have no idea if they are in the same building or not.

          VoIP.ms has many POPS scattered across the US and Canada.

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          • DanpD
            Danp
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            My apologies but I'm a neophyte on this stuff. So beyond the did fee and the per minute rates, are there any other fixed or variable fees to be considered when pricing out the voip service?

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @Danp
              last edited by

              @Danp said:

              My apologies but I'm a neophyte on this stuff. So beyond the did fee and the per minute rates, are there any other fixed or variable fees to be considered when pricing out the voip service?

              There is some minor FCC fee that I have seen but nothin like Title II fee on legacy POTS. i would have to go pull a statement to give it to you exactly.

              But really that is about it.

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender
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                We currently have a PRI, our current system doesn't provide any type of logging without paying $10K for the logging solution which management has refused to pay.
                With that in mind we don't know how many lines we really use max in/out, but since moving to the PRI we've had no complaints of busy signals, etc.
                I'm sure we could probably get away with 20'ish lines. Before moving to the PRI we had 15 1FBs, and regularly had calls being dumped to a carrier voicemail box.

                It's hard to say if we take more incoming calls vs outgoing calls - Our operators and schedulers definitely take a lot of calls, and we make many outgoing calls as well, reminder calls, returning calls, etc....

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender
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                  PSX,
                  I'll start by saying I know nothing about SIP trunks and their providers.

                  What's the difference between those providers you listed versus say Cox Communications SIP offerings?

                  Cox is offering a dedicated SIP port (dedicated network connection with their network) for $100/month plus $6 per SIP trunk with unlimited local calling (I'd have to look it up, might include long distance too).

                  I know Scott wouldn't like this since it relies on my provider providing a dedicated network connection for this connection - making it harder to move to another location if there was a problem, etc.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver
                    last edited by coliver

                    Have you looked at Vitelity? http://www.vitelity.com/

                    I am forced to use our local ISP for SIP trunks... the dangers of being in the middle of no where.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @coliver
                      last edited by

                      @coliver said:

                      Have you looked at Vitelity? http://www.vitelity.com/

                      I am forced to use our local ISP for SIP trunks... the dangers of being in the middle of no where.

                      How come? You have internet access, right? or is it just not fast enough?

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said:

                        @coliver said:

                        Have you looked at Vitelity? http://www.vitelity.com/

                        I am forced to use our local ISP for SIP trunks... the dangers of being in the middle of no where.

                        How come? You have internet access, right? or is it just not fast enough?

                        No other provider has numbers in our area. So I wasn't able to port numbers outside of our local Telcom/ISP.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said:

                          @Dashrender said:

                          @coliver said:

                          Have you looked at Vitelity? http://www.vitelity.com/

                          I am forced to use our local ISP for SIP trunks... the dangers of being in the middle of no where.

                          How come? You have internet access, right? or is it just not fast enough?

                          No other provider has numbers in our area. So I wasn't able to port numbers outside of our local Telcom/ISP.

                          Awww - ok that is a drag! Surprised you couldn't port to VOIP.MS....

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender Nope... unfortunately no one else is able to work in our local exchange... not sure if that is because the area is too small or a different reason.

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                            • ?
                              A Former User
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                              it's possible that there's a local CLEC. you know the tiny ones that allow AT&T to "not" have a monopoly lol.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender
                                last edited by

                                I thought number portability was a federal requirement these days?

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @Dashrender
                                  last edited by coliver

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  I thought number portability was a federal requirement these days?

                                  It is... but the people you are porting to have to have a presence in the local exchange, or at least that was my understanding.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    hmm.. not sure how that works...

                                    VIOP.MS doesn't have a DC in Omaha, or Nebraska in general, so I'm not sure how they would have a presence in the 402 area code... but they do have numbers here. albeit not many.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      hmm.. not sure how that works...

                                      VIOP.MS doesn't have a DC in Omaha, or Nebraska in general, so I'm not sure how they would have a presence in the 402 area code... but they do have numbers here. albeit not many.

                                      Because VoIP.ms is not the one getting the numbers. Layer 3 is.

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                                      • PSX_DefectorP
                                        PSX_Defector @mlnews
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                                        @mlnews said:

                                        @PSX_Defector said:

                                        If you need that much in calling, and Voicepulse doesn't work for ya, maybe look at the big guys. The Death Star, Big Red V, and CenturyLink do have SIP trunking for a more than Voicepulse but offers much more, like decentralized low latency endpoints and great backbone transversal.

                                        VoicePulse has two points on the east coast and two on the west coast.

                                        If I'm not mistaken, the Death Star has 5 just in Texas. I think it's DFW, Houston, Austin, San Antonio and El Paso. It's been a while since I looked at that infrastructure.

                                        Remember also that the big guys have huge numbers of PoPs, so not only east/west but most major cities. I know with the Death Star they have PoPs everywhere. So you don't have to just choose from Virgina or San Francisco, you can get Chicago, Detroit, St. Louis, Dallas, Houston, Kansas City, Atlanta, Raleigh, NC, etc. etc. etc.

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                                        • ?
                                          A Former User @coliver
                                          last edited by

                                          @coliver said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          I thought number portability was a federal requirement these days?

                                          It is... but the people you are porting to have to have a presence in the local exchange, or at least that was my understanding.

                                          Not only that but for business your phones are required to have dual/redundant links to E911.

                                          Most places these days can get into almost any area though. Sometimes it will take them up to a month to port some of the small area stuff to get the links working and test it all though. VoIP.MS pricing hasn't really worked for me in the past. Mainly because I've had phone systems that take 50-100 concurrent calls and the pricing wasn't too great. If you have enough volume you can get SIP trunks at good prices from Verizon. I do not think they do one offs though. Lumos does them as well (and PRIs based on their SIP trunks).

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @A Former User
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                                            @thecreativeone91 said:

                                            Not only that but for business your phones are required to have dual/redundant links to E911.

                                            This is not true.

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