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    • jmooreJ
      jmoore @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller Ok thanks I will start my research on them

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      • dafyreD
        dafyre
        last edited by

        Since you are already able to manage the Local Admin PW on the machines via GPO, why change?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @jmoore
          last edited by

          @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

          i asked what would happen if i just started changing it and my boss said the group policy would just change it back.

          That'll happen no matter what tool you use. They will fight over the change.

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre @scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

            @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

            i asked what would happen if i just started changing it and my boss said the group policy would just change it back.

            That'll happen no matter what tool you use. They will fight over the change.

            I would expect GPO or Salt to ultimately win.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @dafyre
              last edited by

              @dafyre said in Local Admin PW:

              @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

              @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

              i asked what would happen if i just started changing it and my boss said the group policy would just change it back.

              That'll happen no matter what tool you use. They will fight over the change.

              I would expect GPO or Salt to ultimately win.

              No, they go back and forth on their cycles.

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              • jmooreJ
                jmoore @dafyre
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                @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @jmoore
                  last edited by

                  @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                  @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                  But he also told you that it was still happening. Can't be both.

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                  • dafyreD
                    dafyre @jmoore
                    last edited by

                    @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                    @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                    Seems like I remember hearing about that somewhere. Salt can do this, but I've not tested it on Windows yet.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @dafyre
                      last edited by

                      @dafyre said in Local Admin PW:

                      @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                      @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                      Seems like I remember hearing about that somewhere. Salt can do this, but I've not tested it on Windows yet.

                      Yes, Salt definitely can.

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                      • jmooreJ
                        jmoore @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

                        @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                        @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                        But he also told you that it was still happening. Can't be both.

                        your exactly right. I see the dichotomy there. I guess i don't understand what he meant.

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                        • dbeatoD
                          dbeato
                          last edited by

                          If you are in a Windows Environment take a look at LAPS
                          https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/mt227395.aspx

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce
                            last edited by Obsolesce

                            I was thinking some kind of PS script would work... first result of a search lead to this, which looks promising:

                            http://beta.itprotoday.com/management-mobility/resetting-local-administrator-password-computers

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @tim_g said in Local Admin PW:

                              I was thinking some kind of PS script would work... first result of a search lead to this, which looks promising:

                              PS could definitely do it.

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                              • jmooreJ
                                jmoore @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @tim_g said in Local Admin PW:

                                I was thinking some kind of PS script would work... first result of a search lead to this, which looks promising:

                                http://beta.itprotoday.com/management-mobility/resetting-local-administrator-password-computers

                                thanks tim, checking that out too

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                                • jmooreJ
                                  jmoore @dbeato
                                  last edited by

                                  @dbeato said in Local Admin PW:

                                  If you are in a Windows Environment take a look at LAPS
                                  https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/mt227395.aspx

                                  thanks dbeato, i will look at that

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                                    flaxking @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by flaxking

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

                                    @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                                    @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                                    But he also told you that it was still happening. Can't be both.

                                    Are you sure it can't be? My guess is that whatever update removes this ability might not remove an existing GPO with it already setup (in which case there probably is a hacky way to change the password). Or maybe his boss just thinks it is still happening, I couldn't really tell you.

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                                    • DustinB3403D
                                      DustinB3403 @flaxking
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                                      @flaxking said in Local Admin PW:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

                                      @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                                      @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                                      But he also told you that it was still happening. Can't be both.

                                      Are you sure it can't be? My guess is that whatever update removes this ability might not remove an existing GPO with it already setup. Or maybe his boss just thinks it is still happening, I couldn't really tell you.

                                      There would be an easy way to test.

                                      Change the password locally, reboot, perform a gpupdate and see if the old password works again.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @flaxking
                                        last edited by

                                        @flaxking said in Local Admin PW:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

                                        @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                                        @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                                        But he also told you that it was still happening. Can't be both.

                                        Are you sure it can't be? My guess is that whatever update removes this ability might not remove an existing GPO with it already setup (in which case there probably is a hacky way to change the password). Or maybe his boss just thinks it is still happening, I couldn't really tell you.

                                        There is no reason to think that. Implementing one system would not imply any removal of another. Just as how GPO doesn't remove any other system.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @jmoore
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                                          @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                                          @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                                          I don't think it was plain text but it was such a weak cipher it might as well have been.

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                                          • jmooreJ
                                            jmoore @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said in Local Admin PW:

                                            @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                                            @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                                            I don't think it was plain text but it was such a weak cipher it might as well have been.

                                            got it. one and the same to him I am guessing

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