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    • jmooreJ
      jmoore @scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      @scottalanmiller I haven't used any of those yet. Are they something like chocolatey but with more features? Do you have a recommendation on which to use with a college that has 700-800 users?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @jmoore
        last edited by

        @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

        @scottalanmiller I haven't used any of those yet. Are they something like chocolatey but with more features? Do you have a recommendation on which to use with a college that has 700-800 users?

        They are DevOps style state tool systems. Any of them are fine. Ansible is probably the easiest to use.

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        • jmooreJ
          jmoore @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller Ok thanks I will start my research on them

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          • dafyreD
            dafyre
            last edited by

            Since you are already able to manage the Local Admin PW on the machines via GPO, why change?

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @jmoore
              last edited by

              @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

              i asked what would happen if i just started changing it and my boss said the group policy would just change it back.

              That'll happen no matter what tool you use. They will fight over the change.

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              • dafyreD
                dafyre @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

                @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                i asked what would happen if i just started changing it and my boss said the group policy would just change it back.

                That'll happen no matter what tool you use. They will fight over the change.

                I would expect GPO or Salt to ultimately win.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @dafyre
                  last edited by

                  @dafyre said in Local Admin PW:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

                  @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                  i asked what would happen if i just started changing it and my boss said the group policy would just change it back.

                  That'll happen no matter what tool you use. They will fight over the change.

                  I would expect GPO or Salt to ultimately win.

                  No, they go back and forth on their cycles.

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                  • jmooreJ
                    jmoore @dafyre
                    last edited by

                    @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @jmoore
                      last edited by

                      @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                      @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                      But he also told you that it was still happening. Can't be both.

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                      • dafyreD
                        dafyre @jmoore
                        last edited by

                        @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                        @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                        Seems like I remember hearing about that somewhere. Salt can do this, but I've not tested it on Windows yet.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @dafyre
                          last edited by

                          @dafyre said in Local Admin PW:

                          @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                          @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                          Seems like I remember hearing about that somewhere. Salt can do this, but I've not tested it on Windows yet.

                          Yes, Salt definitely can.

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                          • jmooreJ
                            jmoore @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

                            @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                            @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                            But he also told you that it was still happening. Can't be both.

                            your exactly right. I see the dichotomy there. I guess i don't understand what he meant.

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                            • dbeatoD
                              dbeato
                              last edited by

                              If you are in a Windows Environment take a look at LAPS
                              https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/mt227395.aspx

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce
                                last edited by Obsolesce

                                I was thinking some kind of PS script would work... first result of a search lead to this, which looks promising:

                                http://beta.itprotoday.com/management-mobility/resetting-local-administrator-password-computers

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  @tim_g said in Local Admin PW:

                                  I was thinking some kind of PS script would work... first result of a search lead to this, which looks promising:

                                  PS could definitely do it.

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                                  • jmooreJ
                                    jmoore @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @tim_g said in Local Admin PW:

                                    I was thinking some kind of PS script would work... first result of a search lead to this, which looks promising:

                                    http://beta.itprotoday.com/management-mobility/resetting-local-administrator-password-computers

                                    thanks tim, checking that out too

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                                    • jmooreJ
                                      jmoore @dbeato
                                      last edited by

                                      @dbeato said in Local Admin PW:

                                      If you are in a Windows Environment take a look at LAPS
                                      https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/mt227395.aspx

                                      thanks dbeato, i will look at that

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                                        flaxking @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

                                        @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                                        @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                                        But he also told you that it was still happening. Can't be both.

                                        Are you sure it can't be? My guess is that whatever update removes this ability might not remove an existing GPO with it already setup (in which case there probably is a hacky way to change the password). Or maybe his boss just thinks it is still happening, I couldn't really tell you.

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                                        • DustinB3403D
                                          DustinB3403 @flaxking
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                                          @flaxking said in Local Admin PW:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

                                          @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                                          @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                                          But he also told you that it was still happening. Can't be both.

                                          Are you sure it can't be? My guess is that whatever update removes this ability might not remove an existing GPO with it already setup. Or maybe his boss just thinks it is still happening, I couldn't really tell you.

                                          There would be an easy way to test.

                                          Change the password locally, reboot, perform a gpupdate and see if the old password works again.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @flaxking
                                            last edited by

                                            @flaxking said in Local Admin PW:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Local Admin PW:

                                            @jmoore said in Local Admin PW:

                                            @dafyre My boss told me that microsoft took away the ability to change the passwords via gpo because of some issue where they were being sent in plain text. I have no way to verify but thats what he told me

                                            But he also told you that it was still happening. Can't be both.

                                            Are you sure it can't be? My guess is that whatever update removes this ability might not remove an existing GPO with it already setup (in which case there probably is a hacky way to change the password). Or maybe his boss just thinks it is still happening, I couldn't really tell you.

                                            There is no reason to think that. Implementing one system would not imply any removal of another. Just as how GPO doesn't remove any other system.

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