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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Yeah, don't take any chances.

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        Harry Lui
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        Next thing you know, water must be bad for you because 100% of the people that drinks water dies.

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        • bjB
          bj
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          So, I read the abstract, but not the full article because of the pay wall, but I can't help but to think of my stats class and how they stressed the concept that association is not causation. I would love to see what they controlled for in the study, but it seems too good to be true to me: "Her team found that coffee was associated with fewer deaths due to heart disease, cancer, respiratory disease, stroke, diabetes and kidney disease". Results like that are usually indicative of differences in social-economic classes, access to sufficient and healthy foods, stress levels, exercise, etc, and not a single food item. I mean, unless they have a plausible explanation of how coffee prevents diabetes, then to me it seems like they are just selling snake oil.

          The other doctor's quote seems to me to be more on point: "we are increasingly reassured that coffee is not harmful." This, to me, seems closer to the truth.

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            Harry Lui @bj
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            "Her team found that coffee was associated with fewer deaths due to heart disease, cancer, respiratory disease, stroke, diabetes and kidney disease".

            Sounds exactly like snake oil...

            https://vimeo.com/trishapasricha/about

            An internal medicine resident that wrote the article.
            Dr. Trisha Pasricha, MD at Johns Hopkins Hospital.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Harry Lui
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              @harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

              "Her team found that coffee was associated with fewer deaths due to heart disease, cancer, respiratory disease, stroke, diabetes and kidney disease".

              Sounds exactly like snake oil...

              https://vimeo.com/trishapasricha/about

              An internal medicine resident that wrote article.
              Dr. Trisha Pasricha, MD at Johns Hopkins Hospital.

              Johns Hopkins, I have friends who have been scammed by them in the past. Not a respectable facility. Same hospital whose head of surgery was literally delusionally insane. I don't even consider them a medical facility.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce
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                I've known about this for a couple years now. Stuff You Should Know did a podcast on this a few years ago... two of them. One on caffeine, and one on coffee. (too lazy to link the episodes) Seems like this doctor just discovered those episodes and wrote about it. The benefits are legit.

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                • BigLittleB
                  BigLittle
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                  If that's the case I may be borderline immortal!

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BigLittle
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                    @biglittle said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                    If that's the case I may be borderline immortal!

                    LOL... you can never die.. but you can always never sleep 😉

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                      Harry Lui @Obsolesce
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                      I'll just leave this here.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

                      The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Harry Lui
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                        @harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                        I'll just leave this here.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

                        The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716

                        Water will kill you if you OD on it.

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                        • gjacobseG
                          gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                          @harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                          I'll just leave this here.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

                          The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716

                          Water will kill you if you OD on it.

                          Just about everything will kill you in you OD on it.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                            @gjacobse said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                            @scottalanmiller said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                            @harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                            I'll just leave this here.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

                            The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716

                            Water will kill you if you OD on it.

                            Just about everything will kill you in you OD on it.

                            Everything is death if you are brave enough....

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                            • DustinB3403D
                              DustinB3403 @gjacobse
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                              @gjacobse said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                              @scottalanmiller said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                              @harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                              I'll just leave this here.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

                              The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716

                              Water will kill you if you OD on it.

                              Just about everything will kill you in you OD on it.

                              Um.... OD is the key here.

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                              • gjacobseG
                                gjacobse
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                                Off to get cup two...

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                                • brandon220B
                                  brandon220
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                                  I have to have caffeine in the mornings or I get a headache. Haven't been able to wean myself off of it.

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                                  • RojoLocoR
                                    RojoLoco
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                                    I'm nearly caffeine free these days. Maybe 2-3 energy drinks a week, I only drink coffee at brunch because it makes me sleepy. Been too lazy to make cold brew lately. Guess I'm gonna die from lack of coffee.

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                                    • bjB
                                      bj @Obsolesce
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                                      @tim_g, I"m not doubting the correlation, just the causation. (Did you know that there is a correlation between teacher salaries and beer sales? And no, teachers are not big drinkers.)

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @bj
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                                        @bj said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                                        @tim_g, I"m not doubting the correlation, just the causation. (Did you know that there is a correlation between teacher salaries and beer sales? And no, teachers are not big drinkers.)

                                        What teachers are you talking to?

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                                        • NDCN
                                          NDC
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                                          Have not looked at this particular study but these types of food/health studies are notorious for small sample sizes and poor methodology.

                                          Anything claiming to tell about the amazing health benefits of XYZ food item is pretty much to be ignored with extreme prejudice.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @NDC
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                                            @ndc said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                                            Have not looked at this particular study but these types of food/health studies are notorious for small sample sizes and poor methodology.

                                            Anything claiming to tell about the amazing health benefits of XYZ food item is pretty much to be ignored with extreme prejudice.

                                            Between the two studies something like 700K people were studied over 16 years.

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