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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Harry Lui
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      @harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

      "Her team found that coffee was associated with fewer deaths due to heart disease, cancer, respiratory disease, stroke, diabetes and kidney disease".

      Sounds exactly like snake oil...

      https://vimeo.com/trishapasricha/about

      An internal medicine resident that wrote article.
      Dr. Trisha Pasricha, MD at Johns Hopkins Hospital.

      Johns Hopkins, I have friends who have been scammed by them in the past. Not a respectable facility. Same hospital whose head of surgery was literally delusionally insane. I don't even consider them a medical facility.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce
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        I've known about this for a couple years now. Stuff You Should Know did a podcast on this a few years ago... two of them. One on caffeine, and one on coffee. (too lazy to link the episodes) Seems like this doctor just discovered those episodes and wrote about it. The benefits are legit.

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        • BigLittleB
          BigLittle
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          If that's the case I may be borderline immortal!

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @BigLittle
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            @biglittle said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

            If that's the case I may be borderline immortal!

            LOL... you can never die.. but you can always never sleep 😉

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            • H
              Harry Lui @Obsolesce
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              I'll just leave this here.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

              The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Harry Lui
                last edited by

                @harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                I'll just leave this here.

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

                The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716

                Water will kill you if you OD on it.

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                  @harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                  I'll just leave this here.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

                  The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716

                  Water will kill you if you OD on it.

                  Just about everything will kill you in you OD on it.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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                    @gjacobse said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                    @scottalanmiller said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                    @harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                    I'll just leave this here.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

                    The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716

                    Water will kill you if you OD on it.

                    Just about everything will kill you in you OD on it.

                    Everything is death if you are brave enough....

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @gjacobse
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                      @gjacobse said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                      @scottalanmiller said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                      @harry-lui said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                      I'll just leave this here.

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

                      The entire "may" help you live longer title is misleading. No where in the article it mention that caffeine "may" also kill you. http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/south-carolina-teen-died-caffeine-overdose-coroner-rules-n759716

                      Water will kill you if you OD on it.

                      Just about everything will kill you in you OD on it.

                      Um.... OD is the key here.

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                      • gjacobseG
                        gjacobse
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                        Off to get cup two...

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                        • brandon220B
                          brandon220
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                          I have to have caffeine in the mornings or I get a headache. Haven't been able to wean myself off of it.

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                          • RojoLocoR
                            RojoLoco
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                            I'm nearly caffeine free these days. Maybe 2-3 energy drinks a week, I only drink coffee at brunch because it makes me sleepy. Been too lazy to make cold brew lately. Guess I'm gonna die from lack of coffee.

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                            • bjB
                              bj @Obsolesce
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                              @tim_g, I"m not doubting the correlation, just the causation. (Did you know that there is a correlation between teacher salaries and beer sales? And no, teachers are not big drinkers.)

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                              • coliverC
                                coliver @bj
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                                @bj said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                                @tim_g, I"m not doubting the correlation, just the causation. (Did you know that there is a correlation between teacher salaries and beer sales? And no, teachers are not big drinkers.)

                                What teachers are you talking to?

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                                • NDCN
                                  NDC
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                                  Have not looked at this particular study but these types of food/health studies are notorious for small sample sizes and poor methodology.

                                  Anything claiming to tell about the amazing health benefits of XYZ food item is pretty much to be ignored with extreme prejudice.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @NDC
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                                    @ndc said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                                    Have not looked at this particular study but these types of food/health studies are notorious for small sample sizes and poor methodology.

                                    Anything claiming to tell about the amazing health benefits of XYZ food item is pretty much to be ignored with extreme prejudice.

                                    Between the two studies something like 700K people were studied over 16 years.

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                                    • coliverC
                                      coliver @NDC
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                                      @ndc said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                                      Have not looked at this particular study but these types of food/health studies are notorious for small sample sizes and poor methodology.

                                      Anything claiming to tell about the amazing health benefits of XYZ food item is pretty much to be ignored with extreme prejudice.

                                      This one is pretty legitimate though.

                                      One study examined the coffee-drinking patterns of more than 185,000 Americans over 16 years. The researchers found that regular coffee consumption was associated with lower death rates from all causes — and the more cups of coffee the subjects consumed per day, the greater the apparent benefit. In fact, those who reported drinking four or more cups per day enjoyed an 18 percent lower chance of death over the study period than those who said they drank no coffee.

                                      In a second study, researchers in Europe looked at more than 520,000 people across 10 countries over 16 years. This study, too, found that those who drank several cups of coffee a day had lower death rates, regardless of country.

                                      Two studies found similar outcomes. With gigantic (as far as medicinal and food science goes) sample sizes. My question is what type of death were included. Are they just looking at health related death or are we looking at everything including accidental and homicidal?

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                                      • NDCN
                                        NDC @coliver
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                                        @coliver Yeah that is certainly larger than most. Generally lucky if people are looking at more than a few dozen participants in some of these reports that come out.

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                                        • coliverC
                                          coliver @NDC
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                                          @ndc said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                                          @coliver Yeah that is certainly larger than most. Generally lucky if people are looking at more than a few dozen participants in some of these reports that come out.

                                          Agreed completely. Unlike most other things coffee is pretty universal. So they can get a big sample size without much effort.

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @NDC
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                                            @ndc said in 3 Cups a Day may help you live longer:

                                            Have not looked at this particular study but these types of food/health studies are notorious for small sample sizes and poor methodology.

                                            Anything claiming to tell about the amazing health benefits of XYZ food item is pretty much to be ignored with extreme prejudice.

                                            The same for anything claiming "This will be the death of you".

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