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    FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues

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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403 @bnrstnr
      last edited by DustinB3403

      @bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

      All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.

      I'm pretty sure if they decide to change their terms part of the letter stating so gives you an out. As SAM has stated though, the law was dictating these rules before, likely nothing in the contracts.

      Again, nothing in the contract has to currently state word 1 about net-neutrality. The ability to change their terms at will as was existing in the contract you may have signed allows them to change it at will for any laws that may affect them.

      IE, you agreed to these terms at the contract, and we may have a clause that says you can't back out of the contract except for in these <outlined events>.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
        last edited by

        @bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

        All you'd end up with is a letter in the mail saying things are changing, whether or not you read it and have alternative options is an entirely different matter.

        I'm pretty sure if they decide to change their terms part of the letter stating so gives you an out. As SAM has stated though, the law was dictating these rules before, likely nothing in the contracts.

        Those contracts are "always" written the opposite - stating that if they change, you are still stuck.

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          bnrstnr @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller I've never actually gotten one, that I can remember anyway, from an ISP. I'm more or less thinking of Credit Cards that give you an out if they change your contract.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @bnrstnr
            last edited by

            @bnrstnr said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

            @scottalanmiller I've never actually gotten one, that I can remember anyway, from an ISP. I'm more or less thinking of Credit Cards that give you an out if they change your contract.

            Credit cards are governed by finance rules that are very different from ISPs.

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            • mlnewsM
              mlnews
              last edited by

              https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/fcc-still-withholding-isps-responses-to-net-neutrality-complaints/

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              • mlnewsM
                mlnews
                last edited by

                FCC Hid 50,000 Net Neutrality Complaints from Repeal Docket

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                • mlnewsM
                  mlnews
                  last edited by

                  Find Your Local Net Neutrality Protest

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/tom-wheeler-slams-ajit-pais-plan-to-kill-net-neutrality-rules/?amp=1

                    A good read on the looming court battle to save Net neutrality

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                    • mlnewsM
                      mlnews
                      last edited by

                      https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/tom-wheeler-slams-ajit-pais-plan-to-kill-net-neutrality-rules/

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @mlnews
                        last edited by

                        @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/tom-wheeler-slams-ajit-pais-plan-to-kill-net-neutrality-rules/

                        WTF I already posted this....

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                        • NerdyDadN
                          NerdyDad @DustinB3403
                          last edited by

                          @dustinb3403 said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                          https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/tom-wheeler-slams-ajit-pais-plan-to-kill-net-neutrality-rules/

                          WTF I already posted this....

                          Maybe it was just so good that it deserved another round.

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                          • mlnewsM
                            mlnews
                            last edited by

                            FCC Chairman doesn't just roll back net neutrality, but also silently allows ISPs to go back to secretive pricing where they no longer have to report what you are being charged for!

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                            • mlnewsM
                              mlnews
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                              "While FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is proposing to keep some of the commission's existing disclosure rules and to impose some new disclosure requirements, ISPs won't have to tell consumers exactly what everything will cost when they sign up for service."

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch @mlnews
                                last edited by

                                @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                "While FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is proposing to keep some of the commission's existing disclosure rules and to impose some new disclosure requirements, ISPs won't have to tell consumers exactly what everything will cost when they sign up for service."

                                Just WTF

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                                • coliverC
                                  coliver @JaredBusch
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                                  @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                  "While FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is proposing to keep some of the commission's existing disclosure rules and to impose some new disclosure requirements, ISPs won't have to tell consumers exactly what everything will cost when they sign up for service."

                                  Just WTF

                                  Obviously those rules were making it harder to bring in more competition. It's in the customers best interests to not know how much they are paying. That guy is a crazy zealot.

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                                  • NerdyDadN
                                    NerdyDad @coliver
                                    last edited by

                                    @coliver said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @jaredbusch said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    @mlnews said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                    "While FCC Chairman Ajit Pai is proposing to keep some of the commission's existing disclosure rules and to impose some new disclosure requirements, ISPs won't have to tell consumers exactly what everything will cost when they sign up for service."

                                    Just WTF

                                    Obviously those rules were making it harder to bring in more competition. It's in the customers best interests to not know how much they are paying. That guy is a crazy zealot.

                                    Of course he is. He was a lawyer for Verizon.

                                    Verizon Communications Inc. Associate General Counsel, 2001 – 2003

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender
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                                      This is clearly a fox is in charge of the hen house situation. 😞

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                                      • mlnewsM
                                        mlnews
                                        last edited by

                                        https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/12/crowds-rally-across-the-country-to-support-net-neutrality/

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                                        • black3dynamiteB
                                          black3dynamite
                                          last edited by black3dynamite

                                          Are these crowds willing to cancel their Internet to further support the net neutrality protest?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                                            last edited by

                                            @black3dynamite said in FCC Net Neutrality Insanity Continues:

                                            Are these crowds willing to cancel their Internet to further support the net neutrality protest?

                                            That's like asking if the people of Flint will be willing to go thirsty rather than drink tainted water.

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