call work flow
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This my other thread was really more about the sunk cost fallacy, which did find a good answer to my particular situation, here's a new thread to discuss how horrible or not my current call flow setup works.
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Are you looking for possible ways to improve the work flow?
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I'm looking for why people think my flow is so fraked up.
My flow has little or nothing to do with the desire for pulling a call form another phone that is on hold, or for putting a call on hold on someone else's phone.. but since people dived into that as a reason for why my call work flow must suck.. so here you go.
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If I recall correctly, you said your operator will run around the building physically looking for someone, is that correct?
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FYI, any place that it says transfer call could be either live transfer or transfer to on hold at that station.
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@DustinB3403 said in call work flow:
If I recall correctly, you said your operator will run around the building physically looking for someone, is that correct?
Not typically, but yeah, if they can't find someone by calling around first, then they will get up and try to locate someone.
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@Dashrender said in call work flow:
@DustinB3403 said in call work flow:
If I recall correctly, you said your operator will run around the building physically looking for someone, is that correct?
Not typically, but yeah, if they can't find someone by calling around first, then they will get up and try to locate someone.
And the caller is just.... abandoned for a while?
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@Dashrender said in call work flow:
@DustinB3403 said in call work flow:
If I recall correctly, you said your operator will run around the building physically looking for someone, is that correct?
Not typically, but yeah, if they can't find someone by calling around first, then they will get up and try to locate someone.
So that I see as a bad work-flow for that reason. The employee is leaving their station.
All endpoints should result in "take a message" or "passing the caller to voicemail".
Taking a message to me feel antiquated, you have voicemail, and it should be used.
Having your operator call the doctors cell phone, while I don't think is a great idea, I understand the need.
Only if the caller says "I can leave a message" do they ever get sent to voicemail. Which IMO should be the "We're sorry everyone is busy, you can leave a message for Dr. <Name> and he'll be able to get back to you whenever". After the first attempt to see if the doctor is free.
This VM-box can be monitored by the operator (in the background) and she can then pass a note. The running around, and long HuntGroup (cause that's what this really is) could be simplified.
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How does the operator answer subsequent calls when away from their station? What keeps those callers from going to voicemail?
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The workflow from a quick look reads like this to me....
- Make it easy to have no one to answer the phone.
- Make the caller wait around a lot.
- Voicemail
It seems like just stalling before voicemail rather than avoiding it.
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@scottalanmiller said in call work flow:
The workflow from a quick look reads like this to me....
- Make it easy to have no one to answer the phone.
- Make the caller wait around a lot.
- Voicemail
It seems like just stalling before voicemail rather than avoiding it.
Yeah, that is what it does, it delay's the caller from passing the question/information along to the practice.
If the doctor is busy, do they really have time to sit down and take what could be an hour long call (rather than seeing patients) when all that is a brief description or tidbit of info?
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@scottalanmiller said in call work flow:
@Dashrender said in call work flow:
@DustinB3403 said in call work flow:
If I recall correctly, you said your operator will run around the building physically looking for someone, is that correct?
Not typically, but yeah, if they can't find someone by calling around first, then they will get up and try to locate someone.
And the caller is just.... abandoned for a while?
I suppose that's one way to look at it.. but that's pretty rare, and would only be in an emergent, yet not needing 911, type of case.
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@Dashrender said in call work flow:
@scottalanmiller said in call work flow:
@Dashrender said in call work flow:
@DustinB3403 said in call work flow:
If I recall correctly, you said your operator will run around the building physically looking for someone, is that correct?
Not typically, but yeah, if they can't find someone by calling around first, then they will get up and try to locate someone.
And the caller is just.... abandoned for a while?
I suppose that's one way to look at it.. but that's pretty rare, and would only be in an emergent, yet not needing 911, type of case.
What about another caller that has an emergency at that time?
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@Dashrender said in call work flow:
@scottalanmiller said in call work flow:
@Dashrender said in call work flow:
@DustinB3403 said in call work flow:
If I recall correctly, you said your operator will run around the building physically looking for someone, is that correct?
Not typically, but yeah, if they can't find someone by calling around first, then they will get up and try to locate someone.
And the caller is just.... abandoned for a while?
I suppose that's one way to look at it.. but that's pretty rare, and would only be in an emergent, yet not needing 911, type of case.
But even in an emergent situation, leaving that caller on the phone, could cause more harm.
Getting the details of the call are the critical part, as those can be passed directly to a doctor who can investigate from there.
Playing the waiting game is just delaying that information from being received.
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Holy crap guys.. wow !
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@Dashrender said in call work flow:
Holy crap guys.. wow !
what?
I wasn't really involved in the last conversation. This conversation is about call work flow.
The most prudent work flow is to direct the caller to VM immediately after the operator is unable to find someone to take the call.
Anything else is just spent time.
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@DustinB3403 said in call work flow:
@Dashrender said in call work flow:
@scottalanmiller said in call work flow:
@Dashrender said in call work flow:
@DustinB3403 said in call work flow:
If I recall correctly, you said your operator will run around the building physically looking for someone, is that correct?
Not typically, but yeah, if they can't find someone by calling around first, then they will get up and try to locate someone.
And the caller is just.... abandoned for a while?
I suppose that's one way to look at it.. but that's pretty rare, and would only be in an emergent, yet not needing 911, type of case.
But even in an emergent situation, leaving that caller on the phone, could cause more harm.
Getting the details of the call are the critical part, as those can be passed directly to a doctor who can investigate from there.
Playing the waiting game is just delaying that information from being received.
I can see this making sense, have them wait for a doctor. I'm just wondering how they handle making sure that the next emergency has a good workflow if the phones shut down from one. Maybe someone else jumps in the hot seat?
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@DustinB3403 said in call work flow:
@Dashrender said in call work flow:
Holy crap guys.. wow !
what?
I wasn't really involved in the last conversation. This conversation is about call work flow.
The most prudent work flow is to direct the caller to VM immediately after the operator is unable to find someone to take the call.
Anything else is just spent time.
That's what it feels like to me. Lots of stalling that could be used to find doctors, get responses, answer other calls, etc. What's the value in the "being on hold"?
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@DustinB3403 said in call work flow:
@Dashrender said in call work flow:
@DustinB3403 said in call work flow:
If I recall correctly, you said your operator will run around the building physically looking for someone, is that correct?
Not typically, but yeah, if they can't find someone by calling around first, then they will get up and try to locate someone.
So that I see as a bad work-flow for that reason. The employee is leaving their station.
Really? If they can't get ahold of someone (which granted is fraking RARE!) and they determine there is a need to get a hold of someone NOW, then they do it. Again, this is rare.
All endpoints should result in "take a message" or "passing the caller to voicemail".
What about when there is a staffer who can take the call?
Taking a message to me feel antiquated, you have voicemail, and it should be used.
Holy crap - who died and made you king? Patients rarely leave the desired information on voicemail, taking a message ensures that when we call them back we are more prepared to help them.
Having your operator call the doctors cell phone, while I don't think is a great idea, I understand the need.
Again, this is only on the list as a LAST DITCH OMG effort - but really, telling the caller to call 911 would probably happen first.
Only if the caller says "I can leave a message" do they ever get sent to voicemail. Which IMO should be the "We're sorry everyone is busy, you can leave a message for Dr. <Name> and he'll be able to get back to you whenever". After the first attempt to see if the doctor is free.
This was a BOD decision. In the above listed call flow (we obviously have others) the caller must choose the path to voicemail, otherwise they get to wait in a queue for as long as they want until an operator answers and handles their call.
I don't see anything wrong with this, I fraking HATE systems that don't allow me to stay on hold. The moment I hang up I start working on something else, and now I'm going to be interrupted when and if you decide to call me back, in many cases I want to wait on hold until I get someone.But - the option is there for those who want to leave a VM.
This VM-box can be monitored by the operator (in the background) and she can then pass a note. The running around, and long HuntGroup (cause that's what this really is) could be simplified.
Again - we have a People First outlook - forcing people into voicemail at the earliest possible avenue is not the desire.
You all are way overblowing the potential that someone will get up and run around looking for people to take calls.
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@scottalanmiller said in call work flow:
How does the operator answer subsequent calls when away from their station? What keeps those callers from going to voicemail?
Again, rare situation, not a real problem. FYI, there are two operators.. so the second one will continue to take calls.
Nothing stops subsequent calls from going to VM - but again, the caller is given the choice while waiting in queue for an operator.
