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    Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ

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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
      last edited by Dashrender

      You need a hypervisor license ($300) and a per VM license? Boy, that can add up quickly. Veeam small business the last time I looked was like $800 and $130/yr support/update renewal. Doesn't take many VMs to climb over that. And supports unlimited VMs on up to three hosts (basically it matches VMWares Essential package).

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @Dashrender
        last edited by JaredBusch

        @Dashrender said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

        You need a hypervisor license ($300) and a per VM license? Boy, that can add up quickly. Veeam small business the last time I looked was like $800 and $130/yr support/update renewal. Doesn't take many VMs to climb over that. And supports unlimited VMs on up to three hosts (basically it matches VMWares Essential package).

        No Veeam Backup Essentials is sold per 2 processors. Always has been. So three, two processor servers, were $2400, not $800. The current price is $950 MSRP.
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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @JaredBusch said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

          @Dashrender said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

          You need a hypervisor license ($300) and a per VM license? Boy, that can add up quickly. Veeam small business the last time I looked was like $800 and $130/yr support/update renewal. Doesn't take many VMs to climb over that. And supports unlimited VMs on up to three hosts (basically it matches VMWares Essential package).

          No Veeam Backup Essentials is sold per 2 processors. Always has been. So three, two processor servers, were $2400, not $800. The current price is $950 MSRP.

          Oh, thanks OK, even so, a single host can hold dozens or more of VMs..

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @Dashrender
            last edited by

            @Dashrender said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

            You need a hypervisor license ($300) and a per VM license? Boy, that can add up quickly. Veeam small business the last time I looked was like $800 and $130/yr support/update renewal. Doesn't take many VMs to climb over that. And supports unlimited VMs on up to three hosts (basically it matches VMWares Essential package).

            "VM Pricing (Only available with Standard and Premium Subscriptions): Each Zmanda Client subscription allows up to 5 virtual machines (VMs) running on one physical server. All VMs must have the same operating system as the client subscription purchased. For example, if you have 2 physical machines running 3 Linux and 3 Windows VMs on the first machine and 5 Linux VMs on the second machine, you need to purchase subscription to 1 Zmanda Client for Linux, 1 Zmanda Client for Windows for the first machine and 1 Zmanda Client for Linux for the second machine. "

            But still, not supporting two major OS's from this decade is a huge reason not to go with them. In fact, I didn't even see that because I figured it was an "of course" thing.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @momurda
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              @momurda said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

              Zmanda looks like it has become much more robust over the last 7-10 years. However, looks like they still dont support Server 2012R2/2016
              http://www.zmanda.com/pricing.html#ASP

              Wow, looks like they gave up long ago and are just riding it out until people catch on and stop paying them.

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              RHEL... update to date.
              CentOS.... same as above (literally)
              Solaris 10.... means that they gave up in 2011 there
              Fedora.... we are four versions past support (on 25 now.)
              Oracle... again, just RHEL listed a third time
              Suse... that's the old version, not current
              OpenSuse.... so old we've not seen that numbering system in a long time
              Ubuntu.... two years and four versions since they gave up
              Mac OSX... only one version old, this is almost up to date, sort of
              Windows.... Half a decade since they had support.

              Wow. It literally looks like they closed up shop and gave up about half a decade ago. I think this product is over and done. Who could buy this today? Pure CentOS shops I guess. No serious Mac, Windows, Suse, Solaris, Fedora, Ubuntu shop or anyone with mixed loads could consider it. Good to know that Windows 2000 and CentOS 5 are covered, though, should you need to time travel to the last last decade to run a novelty IT shop.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403
                last edited by

                well if you need to backup only Windows 10 environments..... but I assume that there are better more supported options available

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

                  well if you need to backup only Windows 10 environments..... but I assume that there are better more supported options available

                  Veeam, free and it's made this century.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    For Windows you could hope they were just lazy and didn't list 2012R2....
                    But it is missing 2016... How long has that been out now?

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                    • F
                      Francesco Provino @Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      @Tim_G If you need a truly enterprise and FLOSS backup software, just try Bacula or BareOS.

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                      • StrongBadS
                        StrongBad
                        last edited by

                        I keep hearing good things about Bacula.

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