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    • momurdaM
      momurda
      last edited by

      I looked at this when it was Amanda backup and it was free. That was years ago and back then i dont think i had enough xp to use it properly. Also at the time the job was all Windows environment.

      Zmanda looks like it has become much more robust over the last 7-10 years. However, looks like they still dont support Server 2012R2/2016
      http://www.zmanda.com/pricing.html#ASP

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by Dashrender

        You need a hypervisor license ($300) and a per VM license? Boy, that can add up quickly. Veeam small business the last time I looked was like $800 and $130/yr support/update renewal. Doesn't take many VMs to climb over that. And supports unlimited VMs on up to three hosts (basically it matches VMWares Essential package).

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @Dashrender
          last edited by JaredBusch

          @Dashrender said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

          You need a hypervisor license ($300) and a per VM license? Boy, that can add up quickly. Veeam small business the last time I looked was like $800 and $130/yr support/update renewal. Doesn't take many VMs to climb over that. And supports unlimited VMs on up to three hosts (basically it matches VMWares Essential package).

          No Veeam Backup Essentials is sold per 2 processors. Always has been. So three, two processor servers, were $2400, not $800. The current price is $950 MSRP.
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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @JaredBusch
            last edited by

            @JaredBusch said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

            @Dashrender said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

            You need a hypervisor license ($300) and a per VM license? Boy, that can add up quickly. Veeam small business the last time I looked was like $800 and $130/yr support/update renewal. Doesn't take many VMs to climb over that. And supports unlimited VMs on up to three hosts (basically it matches VMWares Essential package).

            No Veeam Backup Essentials is sold per 2 processors. Always has been. So three, two processor servers, were $2400, not $800. The current price is $950 MSRP.

            Oh, thanks OK, even so, a single host can hold dozens or more of VMs..

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

              You need a hypervisor license ($300) and a per VM license? Boy, that can add up quickly. Veeam small business the last time I looked was like $800 and $130/yr support/update renewal. Doesn't take many VMs to climb over that. And supports unlimited VMs on up to three hosts (basically it matches VMWares Essential package).

              "VM Pricing (Only available with Standard and Premium Subscriptions): Each Zmanda Client subscription allows up to 5 virtual machines (VMs) running on one physical server. All VMs must have the same operating system as the client subscription purchased. For example, if you have 2 physical machines running 3 Linux and 3 Windows VMs on the first machine and 5 Linux VMs on the second machine, you need to purchase subscription to 1 Zmanda Client for Linux, 1 Zmanda Client for Windows for the first machine and 1 Zmanda Client for Linux for the second machine. "

              But still, not supporting two major OS's from this decade is a huge reason not to go with them. In fact, I didn't even see that because I figured it was an "of course" thing.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @momurda
                last edited by

                @momurda said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

                Zmanda looks like it has become much more robust over the last 7-10 years. However, looks like they still dont support Server 2012R2/2016
                http://www.zmanda.com/pricing.html#ASP

                Wow, looks like they gave up long ago and are just riding it out until people catch on and stop paying them.

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                RHEL... update to date.
                CentOS.... same as above (literally)
                Solaris 10.... means that they gave up in 2011 there
                Fedora.... we are four versions past support (on 25 now.)
                Oracle... again, just RHEL listed a third time
                Suse... that's the old version, not current
                OpenSuse.... so old we've not seen that numbering system in a long time
                Ubuntu.... two years and four versions since they gave up
                Mac OSX... only one version old, this is almost up to date, sort of
                Windows.... Half a decade since they had support.

                Wow. It literally looks like they closed up shop and gave up about half a decade ago. I think this product is over and done. Who could buy this today? Pure CentOS shops I guess. No serious Mac, Windows, Suse, Solaris, Fedora, Ubuntu shop or anyone with mixed loads could consider it. Good to know that Windows 2000 and CentOS 5 are covered, though, should you need to time travel to the last last decade to run a novelty IT shop.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  well if you need to backup only Windows 10 environments..... but I assume that there are better more supported options available

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                    last edited by

                    @DustinB3403 said in Benefits of Zmanda / Bacula vs XYZ:

                    well if you need to backup only Windows 10 environments..... but I assume that there are better more supported options available

                    Veeam, free and it's made this century.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender
                      last edited by

                      For Windows you could hope they were just lazy and didn't list 2012R2....
                      But it is missing 2016... How long has that been out now?

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                      • F
                        Francesco Provino @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @Tim_G If you need a truly enterprise and FLOSS backup software, just try Bacula or BareOS.

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                        • StrongBadS
                          StrongBad
                          last edited by

                          I keep hearing good things about Bacula.

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