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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @pchiodo
      last edited by

      @pchiodo The damned windows magic network detection service needs to die in a damned fire..

      I'll get you a screenshot in a minute.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch
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        @pchiodo restart this service. Network Location Awareness

        From a GUI, you need to connect remotely, via MMC.

        0_1484677298487_upload-f70951f8-2ef4-41d4-ba4a-865d27604379

        To prevent this in the future, set the service to Automatic (Delayed Start)

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch
          last edited by

          Sorry, reread your post and the guest VMs are the ones with the problems.. well same scenario..

          The DC was probably a bit slow coming up due to Windows crash handling.

          So because the DC was not fully online, the other VMs did not see the domain network properly. Reboot them or restart the service noted above. I highly recommend setting that damned thing to delayed on all systems.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender
            last edited by

            To add to JB's recommendation, you might set the DC to boot a few mins before the others allowing it time to come up fully before the rest.

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            • pchiodoP
              pchiodo
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              Yeah... I've tried all of the above, and the VMs still come up with Unidentified Network. I have a number of other HV Hosts configured the exact same way, and none of these have this problem.

              I've rebooted the host several times, and had already changed NLA to delayed start on both the host and the guests.

              At this point, I'm dissolving the team and removing the virtual switch, I'll then recreate the team and the virtual switch and reattach the guests, and see where I'm at.

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              • pchiodoP
                pchiodo
                last edited by

                Oh, and I have 2 DCs, so it should see one of them almost immediately

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                • pchiodoP
                  pchiodo @pchiodo
                  last edited by

                  @pchiodo said in Hyper-V Guest - Unidentified Network:

                  Yeah... I've tried all of the above, and the VMs still come up with Unidentified Network. I have a number of other HV Hosts configured the exact same way, and none of these have this problem.

                  I've rebooted the host several times, and had already changed NLA to delayed start on both the host and the guests.

                  At this point, I'm dissolving the team and removing the virtual switch, I'll then recreate the team and the virtual switch and reattach the guests, and see where I'm at.

                  Well, that didn't pan out. Same problem...

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce
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                    Would you happen to have your DHCP server on that same HOST? Is the HOST set to a static or dynamic ip?

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      @Tim_G Ha, I completely missed these two lines:

                      "The host server is fine and has full connectivity.
                      These VMs are setup with static IPs and this particular LAN does not have a DHCP server."

                      Ignore my above post.

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                      • pchiodoP
                        pchiodo
                        last edited by

                        OK, so now I have dissolved the team again, removed the virtual switch, configured one of the physical adapters with a static IP and then have created a new virtual switch with only the one NIC. So as it stands, the management NIC is NIC1 and the Virtual switch NIC is NIC2.

                        When I set the static on NIC2, it immediately connected to the network as normal.

                        As soon as I recreated the virtual switch, NIC 2 on the physical box changed to Unidentified network, and of course, the VM has the same issue.

                        So when NIC2 bound the host to the virtual, something went haywire.

                        Still struggling..... ugh

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                        • pchiodoP
                          pchiodo
                          last edited by

                          As soon as I remove the virtual switch, NIC2 comes back online, and can be pinged from the network. It appears this issue is on the host level.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce
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                            Is it a Broadcom NIC? Is the firmware up to date? There are issues that are now resolved with Broadcom NICs if you update the firmware, if not, (on the host) you'll need to go in to the advanced properties of the NIC and disable Virtual Machine Queues:

                            Set-NetAdapterAdvancedProperty NIC1 -DisplayName “Virtual Machine Queues” -DisplayValue Disabled
                            Set-NetAdapterAdvancedProperty NIC2 -DisplayName “Virtual Machine Queues” -DisplayValue Disabled
                            Set-NetAdapterAdvancedProperty NIC3 -DisplayName “Virtual Machine Queues” -DisplayValue Disabled
                            Set-NetAdapterAdvancedProperty NIC4 -DisplayName “Virtual Machine Queues” -DisplayValue Disabled

                            If the above is all good or doesn't apply to you, have you:

                            1. Set up the 3-NIC team FIRST
                            2. Assign a static IP to the team
                            3. Create a vSwitch in Hyper-V Manager, select the team NIC, UN-CHECK "Allow management operating system to share this network adapter".
                            4. Assign above vSwitch (in #3 above) as the "Virtual Switch:" in your virtual machine's settings. You can reassign a VM's vNIC while it's running.
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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch
                              last edited by JaredBusch

                              Disabling VMQ is much simpler and should always be disabled with Broadcom NICs.

                              Get-NetAdapterVmq | Disable-NetAdapterVmq 
                              

                              https://mangolassi.it/topic/8358/i-hate-vmq

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                              • pchiodoP
                                pchiodo
                                last edited by

                                VMQ has already been disabled. That was a standard when I loaded these boxes.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  What was the last patch installed on the hypervisor?

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                                    last edited by Obsolesce

                                    @JaredBusch said in Hyper-V Guest - Unidentified Network:

                                    Disabling VMQ is much simpler and should always be disabled with Broadcom NICs.

                                    Get-NetAdapterVmq | Disable-NetAdapterVmq 
                                    

                                    https://mangolassi.it/topic/8358/i-hate-vmq

                                    Generally, you DO want to have VMQ enabled on your VM's Network Adapter, under Hardware Acceleration: "Enable virtual machine queue", and enabled on the HOST's network adapter. VMQ is not the issue. With VMQ enabled, you get even better performance (well, at least with 10gb speeds... probably not noticeable with 1gb). With VMQ disabled, the network load is on the Hosts CPU. VMQ off-loads it to the NIC, where it should be.

                                    Where the problem lies, is with a select number of Broadcom NICs... specifically with the 57xx based chipsets. If you have one of the effected NICs, you should update the drivers, as it has now been resolved. If you can't update, then disable VMQ.

                                    Here's the latest official Microsoft article regarding it:

                                    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2986895

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                                    • pchiodoP
                                      pchiodo
                                      last edited by

                                      I'm back to this problem. I moved the load from this server to another server so I could further investigate. I think I found the issue, but not a resolution.

                                      In Device Manager, I still have two rogue entries:

                                      Hyper-V Virtual Ethernet Adapter
                                      Microsoft Hyper-V Network Switch Default Miniport

                                      Both of these have the following error:

                                      This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device. (Code 31)

                                      An object ID was not found in the file

                                      In PS the Get-VMNetworkAdapter - ManagementOS and Get-VMSwitch both come back with no results, yet they are listed in Device Manager. I can disable them in DM, but it does not resolve the issue. DM does not let me remove them, and Remove-VMSwitch and Remove-VMNetworkAdapter have no effect.

                                      Any ideas?

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @pchiodo
                                        last edited by

                                        @pchiodo said in Hyper-V Guest - Unidentified Network:

                                        I'm back to this problem. I moved the load from this server to another server so I could further investigate. I think I found the issue, but not a resolution.

                                        In Device Manager, I still have two rogue entries:

                                        Hyper-V Virtual Ethernet Adapter
                                        Microsoft Hyper-V Network Switch Default Miniport

                                        Both of these have the following error:

                                        This device is not working properly because Windows cannot load the drivers required for this device. (Code 31)

                                        An object ID was not found in the file

                                        In PS the Get-VMNetworkAdapter - ManagementOS and Get-VMSwitch both come back with no results, yet they are listed in Device Manager. I can disable them in DM, but it does not resolve the issue. DM does not let me remove them, and Remove-VMSwitch and Remove-VMNetworkAdapter have no effect.

                                        Any ideas?

                                        Reinstall Hyper-V Server. Something is hosed. Well I guess in your case it is Server 2012 DataCenter?

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                                        • pchiodoP
                                          pchiodo @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @JaredBusch That's really using a sledgehammer when a scalpel should be sufficient. I'd really like to find a resolution in case this comes up again. nuke and reload is a last resort IMHO.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @pchiodo
                                            last edited by

                                            @pchiodo said in Hyper-V Guest - Unidentified Network:

                                            @JaredBusch That's really using a sledgehammer when a scalpel should be sufficient. I'd really like to find a resolution in case this comes up again. nuke and reload is a last resort IMHO.

                                            Thanks for posting this - and while your hopefully found solution is a bit more useful considering that 2012 is still supported and sorta current, my wanting to fix my booting 2003 issue is along the same guise.

                                            Sadly for both of us, it might not be worth the expense to our companies (in our time not working on other issues, if not in direct billing) versus just wiping and reinstalling.

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