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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
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      MEPs vote on robots' legal status - and if a kill switch is required

      Pretty interesting article, worth the read. The laws are the same ones referenced in iRobot, with Will Smith.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
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        The new age of robots has the potential for "virtually unbounded prosperity" but also raises questions about the future of work and whether member states need to introduce a basic income in the light of robots taking jobs.

        This goes for what Scott's been suggesting for a while.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

          The new age of robots has the potential for "virtually unbounded prosperity" but also raises questions about the future of work and whether member states need to introduce a basic income in the light of robots taking jobs.

          This goes for what Scott's been suggesting for a while.

          Well I question if we as humans doing everything except for innovating, if we actually need income.

          Why not just provide everyone, whatever they want?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            I think once we have the rise of robots doing all of the work, universal income will be obvious and forced. Groups will fight it, but it won't work for long.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

              @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

              The new age of robots has the potential for "virtually unbounded prosperity" but also raises questions about the future of work and whether member states need to introduce a basic income in the light of robots taking jobs.

              This goes for what Scott's been suggesting for a while.

              Well I question if we as humans doing everything except for innovating, if we actually need income.

              Why not just provide everyone, whatever they want?

              we're not quite there yet technologically to do that. And even if we are - the people at the top aren't willing to give up their believed power to do so.

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender The pyramid power platform would disappear rather quickly as everything becomes automated.

                No further need to have "leaders" etc.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                  @Dashrender The pyramid power platform would disappear rather quickly as everything becomes automated.

                  No further need to have "leaders" etc.

                  That's not true at all. AI can automate production to an extreme degree, but it isn't likely to have any useful place in automating leadership.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                    @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                    @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                    The new age of robots has the potential for "virtually unbounded prosperity" but also raises questions about the future of work and whether member states need to introduce a basic income in the light of robots taking jobs.

                    This goes for what Scott's been suggesting for a while.

                    Well I question if we as humans doing everything except for innovating, if we actually need income.

                    Why not just provide everyone, whatever they want?

                    we're not quite there yet technologically to do that. And even if we are - the people at the top aren't willing to give up their believed power to do so.

                    The people at the top won't be at the top unless they control the robots 😉

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                      @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                      @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                      @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                      The new age of robots has the potential for "virtually unbounded prosperity" but also raises questions about the future of work and whether member states need to introduce a basic income in the light of robots taking jobs.

                      This goes for what Scott's been suggesting for a while.

                      Well I question if we as humans doing everything except for innovating, if we actually need income.

                      Why not just provide everyone, whatever they want?

                      we're not quite there yet technologically to do that. And even if we are - the people at the top aren't willing to give up their believed power to do so.

                      The people at the top won't be at the top unless they control the robots 😉

                      Which is why Google bought up a ton of Robotics manufacturers. Maybe the universal currency with be Google Bucks 😄

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                        @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                        @Dashrender The pyramid power platform would disappear rather quickly as everything becomes automated.

                        No further need to have "leaders" etc.

                        That's not true at all. AI can automate production to an extreme degree, but it isn't likely to have any useful place in automating leadership.

                        Agreed - there will be leadership, I just have no idea how it will look in the future. We could have a Wall-e type existence where humans don't matter and just do anything we want, while the automated systems take care of everything.

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                          @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                          @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                          @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                          The new age of robots has the potential for "virtually unbounded prosperity" but also raises questions about the future of work and whether member states need to introduce a basic income in the light of robots taking jobs.

                          This goes for what Scott's been suggesting for a while.

                          Well I question if we as humans doing everything except for innovating, if we actually need income.

                          Why not just provide everyone, whatever they want?

                          we're not quite there yet technologically to do that. And even if we are - the people at the top aren't willing to give up their believed power to do so.

                          The people at the top won't be at the top unless they control the robots 😉

                          Ah, @thwr and myself can rule the world?

                          Sweet, @thwr, when do you want to get started?

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                          • thwrT
                            thwr @travisdh1
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                            @travisdh1 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                            @scottalanmiller said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                            @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                            @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                            @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                            The new age of robots has the potential for "virtually unbounded prosperity" but also raises questions about the future of work and whether member states need to introduce a basic income in the light of robots taking jobs.

                            This goes for what Scott's been suggesting for a while.

                            Well I question if we as humans doing everything except for innovating, if we actually need income.

                            Why not just provide everyone, whatever they want?

                            we're not quite there yet technologically to do that. And even if we are - the people at the top aren't willing to give up their believed power to do so.

                            The people at the top won't be at the top unless they control the robots 😉

                            Ah, @thwr and myself can rule the world?

                            Sweet, @thwr, when do you want to get started?

                            What? Don't we rule them all yet?

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                            • travisdh1T
                              travisdh1 @thwr
                              last edited by

                              @thwr said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                              @travisdh1 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                              @scottalanmiller said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                              @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                              @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                              @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                              The new age of robots has the potential for "virtually unbounded prosperity" but also raises questions about the future of work and whether member states need to introduce a basic income in the light of robots taking jobs.

                              This goes for what Scott's been suggesting for a while.

                              Well I question if we as humans doing everything except for innovating, if we actually need income.

                              Why not just provide everyone, whatever they want?

                              we're not quite there yet technologically to do that. And even if we are - the people at the top aren't willing to give up their believed power to do so.

                              The people at the top won't be at the top unless they control the robots 😉

                              Ah, @thwr and myself can rule the world?

                              Sweet, @thwr, when do you want to get started?

                              What? Don't we rule them all yet?

                              We're supposed to keep everything in future tense in public, remember?

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                              • thwrT
                                thwr @travisdh1
                                last edited by

                                @travisdh1 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                @thwr said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                @travisdh1 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                @scottalanmiller said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                The new age of robots has the potential for "virtually unbounded prosperity" but also raises questions about the future of work and whether member states need to introduce a basic income in the light of robots taking jobs.

                                This goes for what Scott's been suggesting for a while.

                                Well I question if we as humans doing everything except for innovating, if we actually need income.

                                Why not just provide everyone, whatever they want?

                                we're not quite there yet technologically to do that. And even if we are - the people at the top aren't willing to give up their believed power to do so.

                                The people at the top won't be at the top unless they control the robots 😉

                                Ah, @thwr and myself can rule the world?

                                Sweet, @thwr, when do you want to get started?

                                What? Don't we rule them all yet?

                                We're supposed to keep everything in future tense in public, remember?

                                oh crap...

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                                • dafyreD
                                  dafyre @thwr
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                                  @thwr said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                  @travisdh1 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                  @thwr said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                  @travisdh1 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                  @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                  @Dashrender said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                  The new age of robots has the potential for "virtually unbounded prosperity" but also raises questions about the future of work and whether member states need to introduce a basic income in the light of robots taking jobs.

                                  This goes for what Scott's been suggesting for a while.

                                  Well I question if we as humans doing everything except for innovating, if we actually need income.

                                  Why not just provide everyone, whatever they want?

                                  we're not quite there yet technologically to do that. And even if we are - the people at the top aren't willing to give up their believed power to do so.

                                  The people at the top won't be at the top unless they control the robots 😉

                                  Ah, @thwr and myself can rule the world?

                                  Sweet, @thwr, when do you want to get started?

                                  What? Don't we rule them all yet?

                                  We're supposed to keep everything in future tense in public, remember?

                                  oh crap...

                                  Prepare to be made... Useful.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                    @Dashrender The pyramid power platform would disappear rather quickly as everything becomes automated.

                                    No further need to have "leaders" etc.

                                    That's not true at all. AI can automate production to an extreme degree, but it isn't likely to have any useful place in automating leadership.

                                    I'm not sure it will replace it but I think it could go a long way to informing it. Using some of the same techniques we use for big data analytics could be a boon for informed leadership.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @coliver
                                      last edited by

                                      @coliver said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                      @DustinB3403 said in EU scheduling legislation for AI laws:

                                      @Dashrender The pyramid power platform would disappear rather quickly as everything becomes automated.

                                      No further need to have "leaders" etc.

                                      That's not true at all. AI can automate production to an extreme degree, but it isn't likely to have any useful place in automating leadership.

                                      I'm not sure it will replace it but I think it could go a long way to informing it. Using some of the same techniques we use for big data analytics could be a boon for informed leadership.

                                      That's a totally different concept, though, not related to what we are discussing here and is something that they've had for a very, very long time already.

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