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    • thwrT
      thwr @scottalanmiller
      last edited by thwr

      @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

      @thwr said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

      @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

      @thwr said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

      @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

      @thwr said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

      Just build a custom kernel?

      This is expert level stuff. I don't think this is a path for him to be attempting.

      Let's say "intermediate". But yes, moving on to a different distro is probably his best bet.

      If it doesn't work on Ubuntu, I'd imagine it won't work on anything else. They usually have the best hardware support.

      I agree, but in this case it's just a missing wifi firmware which you need to install manually. I bet he can get his wifi working.

      The whole problem at this point is that he messed up his system with some ugly vendor provided package. That's why he can't install anything else.

      Best to start over then. We kept warning him not to download things.

      Aye 😉

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      • LakshmanaL
        Lakshmana @thwr
        last edited by Lakshmana

        @thwr Which OS will be better for the sony laptop ?
        The hardware have to be detected after the installation of the OS ?

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
          last edited by

          @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

          @thwr Which OS will be better for the sony laptop ?
          The hardware have to be detected after the installation of the OS ?

          No way for us to know. You'll need to test a few and see.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
            last edited by

            Sony makes many laptops. Knowing that it is Sony wouldn't help us to know.

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            • LakshmanaL
              Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller Lubuntu or Redhat or Centos or Budgie ????

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                last edited by

                @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                @scottalanmiller Lubuntu or Redhat or Centos or Budgie ????

                Well obvious none of those. You've picked only two different things.... RHEL and ubuntu. RHEL is a server distro and not applicable here. Ubuntu you've already tested and it doesn't work. How are you choosing these?

                Try Mint, Fedora 25, OpenSuse Tumbleweed for example.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  You need to try new things rather than copy after copy of the same thing.

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                  • LakshmanaL
                    Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller I will try Mint as per the suggestion.I will download try tonight to check whether any issue fixes in it 😞

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                    • LakshmanaL
                      Lakshmana @Lakshmana
                      last edited by Lakshmana

                      @Lakshmana Which desktop environment in Linux mint will not hang will using the machine ???

                      Xfce ,KDE.Cinnamon or Mate

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                        last edited by

                        @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                        @Lakshmana Which desktop environment in Linux mint will not hang will using the machine ???

                        Xfce ,KDE.Cinnamon or Mate

                        You already determined that you want to use XFCE, I thought. So go ahead and use that. I don't know what is causing your hangs, so I'm stuck guessing. But XFCE is the lightest and Cinnamon requires a GPU.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                          last edited by

                          @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                          @scottalanmiller I will try Mint as per the suggestion.I will download try tonight to check whether any issue fixes in it 😞

                          Yes, that's a good place to start. The latest Mint with XFCE or Mate is your best bet. After that Fedora 25 is the next one to try.

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                          • LakshmanaL
                            Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by

                            @scottalanmiller Oh !!! I have downloaded the XFCE Linux Mint now

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              If those don't work, try TrueOS. It's not Linux but should meet your needs.

                              https://www.trueos.org/

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                              • LakshmanaL
                                Lakshmana @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Lakshmana
                                  last edited by

                                  @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                  @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                                  Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                                  Things you need to understand at this point:

                                  • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                                  • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                                  • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                                  • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.
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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                    @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                    @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                                    Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                                    Things you need to understand at this point:

                                    • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                                    • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                                    • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                                    • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.

                                    If he needs Chrome he's going to have to do it that way. He needs to know whether he can install a .deb or .rpm. Those are the only options (other than Mac or Windows).

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                                    • travisdh1T
                                      travisdh1 @stacksofplates
                                      last edited by

                                      @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                      @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                      @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                                      Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                                      Things you need to understand at this point:

                                      • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                                      • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                                      • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                                      • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.

                                      If he needs Chrome he's going to have to do it that way. He needs to know whether he can install a .deb or .rpm. Those are the only options (other than Mac or Windows).

                                      Somewhat, but they do add a proper software repository when installing the package.

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                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates @travisdh1
                                        last edited by stacksofplates

                                        @travisdh1 said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                        @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                        @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                                        Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                                        Things you need to understand at this point:

                                        • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                                        • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                                        • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                                        • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.

                                        If he needs Chrome he's going to have to do it that way. He needs to know whether he can install a .deb or .rpm. Those are the only options (other than Mac or Windows).

                                        Somewhat, but they do add a proper software repository when installing the package.

                                        Right. So there isn't an issue when downloading the file. It adds everything for you.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                                          last edited by

                                          @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                          @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                          @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                                          Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                                          Things you need to understand at this point:

                                          • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                                          • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                                          • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                                          • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.

                                          If he needs Chrome he's going to have to do it that way. He needs to know whether he can install a .deb or .rpm. Those are the only options (other than Mac or Windows).

                                          Yeah, but every enterprise Linux does one or the other. He's not asking the right thing if what he wants is that capability.

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                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by stacksofplates

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                            @Lakshmana said in Xubuntu 16.10 Issue Detected:

                                            @scottalanmiller Whether debian files work in it????

                                            Work in TrueOS? No, it's not Linux at all, let alone Debian. But I can't state this enough... you don't care about Deb files.

                                            Things you need to understand at this point:

                                            • Deb is a file format, it is not the same as Debian. Don't refer to Deb files as Debian files. Debian is an OS. Deb is a file format used by Ubuntu, Debian, Mint and others.
                                            • You don't care about file formats at all, I don't know why you keep asking about these, they are not important.
                                            • Just because something can use a Deb file doesn't mean it can use one that you have. Those packages can be unique to a distro and version. Just because something is a Deb doesn't make it useful to a system than can use Debs.
                                            • You don't just go around grabbing files, that is not how you are supposed to be using any major Linux. Use the repos and the individual files don't matter to you.

                                            If he needs Chrome he's going to have to do it that way. He needs to know whether he can install a .deb or .rpm. Those are the only options (other than Mac or Windows).

                                            Yeah, but every enterprise Linux does one or the other. He's not asking the right thing if what he wants is that capability.

                                            Right, so he won't be able to install .deb or .rpm files. So he won't be able to use Chrome. I think that's what he was trying to figure out.

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