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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender
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      I want to play with the UDM, it has the new Unifi firewall interface... very curious how it's different from USG.

      https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro

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      • jmooreJ
        jmoore @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender Ooh taking a look at that. I dont need it but its interesting!

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @jmoore
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          @jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:

          @Dashrender Ooh taking a look at that. I dont need it but its interesting!

          Agreed - we talked about here a few weeks ago... the new interface is the big thing I'm interested in.. but I"m also running a USG at home and considering moving to 1 Gb service at home and will need to upgrade my router...
          but discussion back then Scott was like - who would want that?

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          • jmooreJ
            jmoore @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender I'm sure it works just fine. Sometimes you don't know its subtleties until you try it too.

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            • jmooreJ
              jmoore
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              lovely, looks like PCM lost my account info

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @jmoore
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                @jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:

                lovely, looks like PCM lost my account info

                they were bought by insight

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                • jmooreJ
                  jmoore
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                  Yeah I see that. So they require a PO and this is just personal. Do I have any options to buy from them like I have before or am I just stuck?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                    @jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:

                    lovely, looks like PCM lost my account info

                    PCM was bought out. Email Yonah for help.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                      @jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:

                      Yeah I see that. So they require a PO and this is just personal. Do I have any options to buy from them like I have before or am I just stuck?

                      They dont. You need a real rep. Ill ping you.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

                        I want to play with the UDM, it has the new Unifi firewall interface... very curious how it's different from USG.

                        https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro

                        Primarily, new processor.

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Redoing Home Network:

                          @Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

                          I want to play with the UDM, it has the new Unifi firewall interface... very curious how it's different from USG.

                          https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro

                          Primarily, new processor.

                          the specs say new Unifi OS also.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                            @Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Redoing Home Network:

                            @Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

                            I want to play with the UDM, it has the new Unifi firewall interface... very curious how it's different from USG.

                            https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-routing-switching/products/udm-pro

                            Primarily, new processor.

                            the specs say new Unifi OS also.

                            That too

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @jmoore
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                              @jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:

                              Well Im sure i dont need all that but I like toys to play with and I look at it as future proofing lol.
                              Planning on:
                              Edgerouter 6p
                              Edgeswitch 8
                              Unifi Ap Pro

                              Does that seem like a solid combo? any reason I shouldn't?

                              WTF

                              Do you have any idea why you are doing? Why would you get a router with 6 ports? It is a router not a switch. It needs a WAN port and a LAN port. Maybe an extra WAN if you have multiple internet services. You use VLAN to your switches for anything else.

                              All EdgeMax devices can handle wire speed throughput if all the traffic is offloaded from the CPU. But things like QoS and a few other tasks cannot be offloaded.

                              The ER4 is the best thing in the EdgeMax line for most. The ERL should never be considered if you have > 50 mbps and need to use the router for QoS (which you should).

                              I have never been able to test an ER4 with QoS enabled on a circuit faster than 200mbps. But at least up to that point it was still getting full service speed.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                @jmoore but beyond all of that, you need to ask why are you spending this much on gear at home. Are you truly going to make use of it and do IT at home?

                                If not you are burning cash for no reason.

                                Buy an Amplifi Instant mesh system and a dumb switch, then move along.

                                IT at home was a great concept before we had cheap hosting and other places where we can spin things up and down at will.

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                                • jmooreJ
                                  jmoore @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said in Redoing Home Network:

                                  Do you have any idea why you are doing? Why would you get a router with 6 ports? It is a router not a switch. It needs a WAN port and a LAN port. Maybe an extra WAN if you have multiple internet services. You use VLAN to your switches for anything else.

                                  Believe it or not i did give this some thought.(not saying its correct thought lol) I am actually surprised more people haven't given a similar reaction. i do know how much I am overbuying. I went through the products and purposely selected a good middle ground for everything. The reasons were multiple:

                                  1. I wanted it to be a learning project and I wanted to play with really good stuff and this was in my budget.
                                  2. Wife works for federal government and is permanent work at home and wanted really solid equipment so she wouldn't stress about things going down. She stresses a lot! We both wanted more professional equipment for a while, for multiple reasons.
                                  3. I know I will probably never need 6 ports on a router but again its not much money. Buying lesser equipment really wasn't that much less. It does give me room to expand in future. I already have a switch in wife's office and will be adding one to each kids room eventually. So this is a whole house project, not just my office. I also plan on experimenting with pbx's and plan on buying a supermicro server soon for more experimentation and I admit, fun.

                                  I know I can use hosting services and I do actually on a regular basis. Since she wanted more of a business infrastructure at home and I wanted to try to replicate a business setting for learning purposes, I felt the time was right. Its not much of an investment and if I learn from something with a lot of features I would see in a better job, then it is worth it to me.

                                  Thankyou for your comment and advice though, hardly anyone else even spoke up, so I appreciate it!

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

                                    POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
                                    The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

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                                      1337 @Dashrender
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                                      @Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

                                      I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

                                      POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
                                      The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

                                      Isn't POE also better in the switches? I thought Ubiquity used some odd DIY standard for POE, at least in the past.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @1337
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                                        @Pete-S said in Redoing Home Network:

                                        @Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

                                        I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

                                        POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
                                        The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

                                        Isn't POE also better in the switches? I thought Ubiquity used some odd DIY standard for POE, at least in the past.

                                        They still do in some places.

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                                        • jmooreJ
                                          jmoore @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

                                          I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

                                          POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
                                          The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

                                          I already ordered the pieces. Thanks for your input though. I needed a router with 4 ports for my 4 rooms plus the incoming port. I plan to use and learn everything about it.

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                                          • EddieJenningsE
                                            EddieJennings @jmoore
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                                            @jmoore said in Redoing Home Network:

                                            @Dashrender said in Redoing Home Network:

                                            I've with JB - You should save the money and get an ER-4. The processor is the same.

                                            POE can be done in the switches, so no need for that in the router.
                                            The ER-4 is nearly half the ER-6.

                                            I already ordered the pieces. Thanks for your input though. I needed a router with 4 ports for my 4 rooms plus the incoming port. I plan to use and learn everything about it.

                                            So each room will be its own network?

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