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    • matteo nunziatiM
      matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

      @Pete-S said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

      @matteo-nunziati said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

      Don't forget openbsd:
      (https://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq16.html)

      That is bhyve I believe. Vmm is the kernel module of bhyve.

      Ah, that would explain why I didn't know about it 🙂

      Not exactly, look at this presentation from 2016 (pdf)
      https://bhyvecon.org/bhyvecon2016-Mike.pdf

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      • black3dynamiteB
        black3dynamite
        last edited by black3dynamite

        Since I normally using Debian or Ubuntu LTS has a container. I discovered an issue with using fedora 31 container image. After creating the container, the network of that container will not work anymore because of the systemd version. Need to add lxc.mount.auto: sys to /etc/pve/lxc/<vm-id>.conf.

        Also when you use fedora 31 container image SELinux is disabled and there's no firewalld or iptables. Not exactly a big deal since you can use Proxmox firewall to manage VMs and containers.

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        • stacksofplatesS
          stacksofplates @black3dynamite
          last edited by

          @black3dynamite said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

          Since I normally using Debian or Ubuntu LTS has a container. I discovered an issue with using fedora 31 container image. After creating the container, the network of that container will not work anymore because of the systemd version. Need to add lxc.mount.auto: sys to /etc/pve/lxc/<vm-id>.conf.

          Also when you use fedora 31 container image SELinux is disabled and there's no firewalld or iptables. Not exactly a big deal since you can use Proxmox firewall to manage VMs and containers.

          Yeah that's the same with their cloud image. It's been like that for a while. They are probably assuming you're using the providers security groups to stop network access.

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          • black3dynamiteB
            black3dynamite
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            After reading Proxmox documentation, I now know why my swap is more than my RAM when using a container image.

            If you assign your container 1GiB of RAM and 512 MiB of swap. The total swap is 1.5 GiB.

            SWAP (1.5 GiB) = RAM (1 GiB) + SWAP (512 MiB)

            https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Linux_Container#pct_settings
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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee
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              Spun up a nested Proxmox instance.
              Really liking the built-in backup & the fact that I can snapshot a UEFI vm!

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              • black3dynamiteB
                black3dynamite @FATeknollogee
                last edited by

                @FATeknollogee said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                Spun up a nested Proxmox instance.
                Really liking the built-in backup & the fact that I can snapshot a UEFI vm!

                I think its only possible because of using LVM snapshot.

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                • black3dynamiteB
                  black3dynamite
                  last edited by black3dynamite

                  When using UEFI, it will add a EFI disk too.

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                  • black3dynamiteB
                    black3dynamite
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                    Proxmox full backup is not bad when your lxc containers is small.
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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403 @black3dynamite
                      last edited by

                      @black3dynamite What if you have massive containers though?

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                      • black3dynamiteB
                        black3dynamite @DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        @DustinB3403 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                        @black3dynamite What if you have massive containers though?

                        I don't know since I don't use a lot of containers.

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @DustinB3403
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                          @DustinB3403 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                          @black3dynamite What if you have massive containers though?

                          Who has that? What's a use case for massive containers?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
                            last edited by

                            @stacksofplates said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                            @DustinB3403 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                            @black3dynamite What if you have massive containers though?

                            Who has that? What's a use case for massive containers?

                            We do, for example. Not often, but when we need storage, containers are still better than a full VM if you don't need the extra overhead.

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                            • warren.stanleyW
                              warren.stanley
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                              After adjusting the updates to the pve-no-subscription repo and updating (full-upgrade), I had an issue where no templates for Containers were available on the host, to "Download" (under pve -> local (pve) -> "Content" -> "Templates").

                              Apparently the list of available templates is updated daily through the "pve-daily-update timer".

                              I triggered and update manually (cause i'm impatient) via:

                              root@pve:~# pveam update
                              

                              ...you can then check the list via:

                              root@pve:~# pveam available
                              

                              And then I had templates to use under pve -> local (pve) -> "Content" -> "Templates".

                              Just spinning up a Debian 10 CT and VM now.

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                              • mroth911M
                                mroth911
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                                PROXMOX with LIZARD FS? ANYONE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED IT.

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                                • stacksofplatesS
                                  stacksofplates @mroth911
                                  last edited by stacksofplates

                                  @mroth911 said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                  PROXMOX with LIZARD FS? ANYONE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED IT.

                                  I have not (but haven't tried). It doesn't appear to be a supported thing from ProxMox. They don't reference it anywhere, only LizardFS does. It's all CLI driven it looks like. Doesn't look like you get any GUI control like with Ceph.

                                  LizardFS mentions in their documentation that they run the chunk server on the ProxMox nodes in functional testing, developemnt, and "some private setups" using LXC containers as the chunk server. So it doesn't sound like it's a recommended thing to do. I'm not sure in the other setup whether they have the chunk servers as completely separate physical machines or if it's a VM with QoS for the disks or something else. Not much out there on it.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller
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                                    We've been deploying more and more Proxmox and so far, knock on wood, we are remaining happy.

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                                    • CloudKnightC
                                      CloudKnight
                                      last edited by

                                      I'm quite happy with it as well, I've deployed a couple of production servers using proxmox and all good so far as well

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                                      • coliverC
                                        coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                        We've been deploying more and more Proxmox and so far, knock on wood, we are remaining happy.

                                        Are you deploying multi-node setups or just single nodes?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @coliver
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                                          @coliver said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                          We've been deploying more and more Proxmox and so far, knock on wood, we are remaining happy.

                                          Are you deploying multi-node setups or just single nodes?

                                          Single node. It's a rare customer that would need more than one node.

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                                          • coliverC
                                            coliver @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                            @coliver said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Reconsidering ProxMox:

                                            We've been deploying more and more Proxmox and so far, knock on wood, we are remaining happy.

                                            Are you deploying multi-node setups or just single nodes?

                                            Single node. It's a rare customer that would need more than one node.

                                            Got it.

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