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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      And SAMIT on why local storage will always be faster than remote storage:

      Youtube Video

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      • mroth911M
        mroth911
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        So, question is how to do set it up? LMAO

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @mroth911
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          @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

          So, question is how to do set it up? LMAO

          Depends on a lot of factors. So there are many players. Hyperconverged vendors like Scale, Simplivity, Nutanix, etc. have it all packaged into a single system so you just turn it on and that's that. It's all done for you.

          All the other players give you the tools and you can make RLS or External storage however you like. That's DRBD, HAST, VMware VSAN, StarWind VSAN, Gluster, CEPH, etc.

          XCP-NG has their own tools for this. StarWind is the leader for high performance systems. VMware VSAN is popular for people on VMware since it is all one vendor.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            DRBD is quite popular for two node systems on Xen and KVM because it is free, baked in, mature, and screaming fast. Gluster and CEPH are popular for the same platforms where you want more scale, and less concern about performance.

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            • mroth911M
              mroth911
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              Ok. I have an older scale system 1150., I want to upgrade the HDD but they told me to just upgrade the node for bigger storage.

              I want to be able to 3 or mode nodes

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              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                DRBD is quite popular for two node systems on Xen and KVM because it is free, baked in, mature, and screaming fast. Gluster and CEPH are popular for the same platforms where you want more scale, and less concern about performance.

                isn't starwinds free for 2 nodes as well?

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in HyperVisor:

                  @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                  DRBD is quite popular for two node systems on Xen and KVM because it is free, baked in, mature, and screaming fast. Gluster and CEPH are popular for the same platforms where you want more scale, and less concern about performance.

                  isn't starwinds free for 2 nodes as well?

                  Starwinds is just free, period, if you don't need support.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @mroth911
                    last edited by

                    @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

                    Ok. I have an older scale system 1150., I want to upgrade the HDD but they told me to just upgrade the node for bigger storage.

                    I want to be able to 3 or mode nodes

                    Generally better to go vertical, not horizontal, due to storage complexities. Two giant nodes are way cheaper than four smaller nodes, for example. And way simpler to deal with the storage. Because mirrored network RAID is easy to have be blinding fast and dead simple.

                    You can do more than two nodes with any two node technology: DRBD, HAST, Starwind. You just have to either manually stagger the storage to make it into Network RAID 1e or have the vendor do it for you.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                      @Dashrender said in HyperVisor:

                      @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                      DRBD is quite popular for two node systems on Xen and KVM because it is free, baked in, mature, and screaming fast. Gluster and CEPH are popular for the same platforms where you want more scale, and less concern about performance.

                      isn't starwinds free for 2 nodes as well?

                      Starwinds is just free, period, if you don't need support.

                      Oh - I didn't know more than 2 nodes was free - thanks.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in HyperVisor:

                        @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                        @Dashrender said in HyperVisor:

                        @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                        DRBD is quite popular for two node systems on Xen and KVM because it is free, baked in, mature, and screaming fast. Gluster and CEPH are popular for the same platforms where you want more scale, and less concern about performance.

                        isn't starwinds free for 2 nodes as well?

                        Starwinds is just free, period, if you don't need support.

                        Oh - I didn't know more than 2 nodes was free - thanks.

                        Different ways to get it, but at least normally it has been free.

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                        • mroth911M
                          mroth911
                          last edited by mroth911

                          So which product is it? Is it this one?

                          https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-virtual-san#VSAN-FREE

                          What kinds of servers do you recommend. I have dell R710. Or should I look for getting better servers? I am going to get all SSD drives.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @mroth911
                            last edited by

                            @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

                            So which product is it? Is it this one?

                            https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-virtual-san#VSAN-FREE

                            What kinds of servers do you recommend. I have dell R710. Or should I look for getting better servers? I am going to get all SSD drives.

                            Yes, that's the one.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                              @Dashrender

                              Free version comes with an unrestricted set of features: multi-tiered server-side caching is
                              available out of the box, scale-up and scale-out are both allowed, VTL is not included.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @mroth911
                                last edited by

                                @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

                                So which product is it? Is it this one?

                                https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-virtual-san#VSAN-FREE

                                What kinds of servers do you recommend. I have dell R710. Or should I look for getting better servers? I am going to get all SSD drives.

                                R710 is old, but works just fine. The 7x0 series is excellent.

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                                • mroth911M
                                  mroth911
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                                  So what would the configuration be. Ovirt ran way to slow on these servers.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender
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                                    Are you getting new hardware? or saddled with the old stuff?

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                                    • mroth911M
                                      mroth911
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                                      I was thinking of using the old stuff or get newer servers. not brand new. but Newer models.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @mroth911
                                        last edited by Dashrender

                                        @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

                                        I was thinking of using the old stuff or get newer servers. not brand new. but Newer models.

                                        Well, you're R710's are from 2009 - get something from 2016'ish will run circles around that old gear. Toss on the fact of SSD storage and 10 GB ethernet, you won't be able to pick yourself up off the floor.

                                        Assuming Moore's law holds, 7 years newer equipment, you're looking at 6 to 8 times faster gear.

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                                        • mroth911M
                                          mroth911 @Dashrender
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                                          @Dashrender ok So what models am I looking for then?

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                                          • dafyreD
                                            dafyre @mroth911
                                            last edited by

                                            @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

                                            @Dashrender ok So what models am I looking for then?

                                            We picked some some R720 / 720XDs, I think around 2015 / 2016.

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