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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @mroth911
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      @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

      All drives would be in sync with every node. with no san or shared storage.

      Being in sync = shared storage.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @mroth911
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        @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

        All drives would be in sync with every node.

        That's called RLS or Replicated Local Storage.

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        • mroth911M
          mroth911
          last edited by

          Ok, So I don't want to use a san. I want to use the drives in the server's to sync.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @mroth911
            last edited by

            @mroth911 here is my MangoCon talk on why RLS blows any external storage out of the water...

            Youtube Video

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              SAMIT IT video on Replicated Local Storage

              Youtube Video

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                And SAMIT on why local storage will always be faster than remote storage:

                Youtube Video

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                • mroth911M
                  mroth911
                  last edited by

                  So, question is how to do set it up? LMAO

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @mroth911
                    last edited by

                    @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

                    So, question is how to do set it up? LMAO

                    Depends on a lot of factors. So there are many players. Hyperconverged vendors like Scale, Simplivity, Nutanix, etc. have it all packaged into a single system so you just turn it on and that's that. It's all done for you.

                    All the other players give you the tools and you can make RLS or External storage however you like. That's DRBD, HAST, VMware VSAN, StarWind VSAN, Gluster, CEPH, etc.

                    XCP-NG has their own tools for this. StarWind is the leader for high performance systems. VMware VSAN is popular for people on VMware since it is all one vendor.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller
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                      DRBD is quite popular for two node systems on Xen and KVM because it is free, baked in, mature, and screaming fast. Gluster and CEPH are popular for the same platforms where you want more scale, and less concern about performance.

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                      • mroth911M
                        mroth911
                        last edited by

                        Ok. I have an older scale system 1150., I want to upgrade the HDD but they told me to just upgrade the node for bigger storage.

                        I want to be able to 3 or mode nodes

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                        • DashrenderD
                          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                          DRBD is quite popular for two node systems on Xen and KVM because it is free, baked in, mature, and screaming fast. Gluster and CEPH are popular for the same platforms where you want more scale, and less concern about performance.

                          isn't starwinds free for 2 nodes as well?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                            last edited by

                            @Dashrender said in HyperVisor:

                            @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                            DRBD is quite popular for two node systems on Xen and KVM because it is free, baked in, mature, and screaming fast. Gluster and CEPH are popular for the same platforms where you want more scale, and less concern about performance.

                            isn't starwinds free for 2 nodes as well?

                            Starwinds is just free, period, if you don't need support.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @mroth911
                              last edited by

                              @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

                              Ok. I have an older scale system 1150., I want to upgrade the HDD but they told me to just upgrade the node for bigger storage.

                              I want to be able to 3 or mode nodes

                              Generally better to go vertical, not horizontal, due to storage complexities. Two giant nodes are way cheaper than four smaller nodes, for example. And way simpler to deal with the storage. Because mirrored network RAID is easy to have be blinding fast and dead simple.

                              You can do more than two nodes with any two node technology: DRBD, HAST, Starwind. You just have to either manually stagger the storage to make it into Network RAID 1e or have the vendor do it for you.

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                              • DashrenderD
                                Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                                @Dashrender said in HyperVisor:

                                @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                                DRBD is quite popular for two node systems on Xen and KVM because it is free, baked in, mature, and screaming fast. Gluster and CEPH are popular for the same platforms where you want more scale, and less concern about performance.

                                isn't starwinds free for 2 nodes as well?

                                Starwinds is just free, period, if you don't need support.

                                Oh - I didn't know more than 2 nodes was free - thanks.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in HyperVisor:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                                  @Dashrender said in HyperVisor:

                                  @scottalanmiller said in HyperVisor:

                                  DRBD is quite popular for two node systems on Xen and KVM because it is free, baked in, mature, and screaming fast. Gluster and CEPH are popular for the same platforms where you want more scale, and less concern about performance.

                                  isn't starwinds free for 2 nodes as well?

                                  Starwinds is just free, period, if you don't need support.

                                  Oh - I didn't know more than 2 nodes was free - thanks.

                                  Different ways to get it, but at least normally it has been free.

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                                  • mroth911M
                                    mroth911
                                    last edited by mroth911

                                    So which product is it? Is it this one?

                                    https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-virtual-san#VSAN-FREE

                                    What kinds of servers do you recommend. I have dell R710. Or should I look for getting better servers? I am going to get all SSD drives.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @mroth911
                                      last edited by

                                      @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

                                      So which product is it? Is it this one?

                                      https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-virtual-san#VSAN-FREE

                                      What kinds of servers do you recommend. I have dell R710. Or should I look for getting better servers? I am going to get all SSD drives.

                                      Yes, that's the one.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender

                                        Free version comes with an unrestricted set of features: multi-tiered server-side caching is
                                        available out of the box, scale-up and scale-out are both allowed, VTL is not included.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @mroth911
                                          last edited by

                                          @mroth911 said in HyperVisor:

                                          So which product is it? Is it this one?

                                          https://www.starwindsoftware.com/starwind-virtual-san#VSAN-FREE

                                          What kinds of servers do you recommend. I have dell R710. Or should I look for getting better servers? I am going to get all SSD drives.

                                          R710 is old, but works just fine. The 7x0 series is excellent.

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                                          • mroth911M
                                            mroth911
                                            last edited by

                                            So what would the configuration be. Ovirt ran way to slow on these servers.

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