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    • Emad RE
      Emad R @pmoncho
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      @pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

      I'm a freeze baby myself. Sweatshirts up to 75. I will take 110 in Vegas and even in TX or Mexico all day long. I love laughing at my friends when they complain of heat. πŸ™‚

      Can you please use normal human metrics like Celsius ? this is why we can never get along πŸ˜‰

      HEre is the past month here:
      https://www.accuweather.com/en/jo/amman/221790/month/221790?view=table

      it is not canada cold but still cold for us...

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Obsolesce
        last edited by

        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

        Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

        I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

        Study 1:
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
        Study2:
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

        (Supplemental Article)

        Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
        https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

        Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

        Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
        http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

        I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

        But I will say that you are correct here:

        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        ... exercise and sun

        and diet of course.

        Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

        I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

        His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

        This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

        I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

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        • pmonchoP
          pmoncho @Emad R
          last edited by

          @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

          @pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

          I'm a freeze baby myself. Sweatshirts up to 75. I will take 110 in Vegas and even in TX or Mexico all day long. I love laughing at my friends when they complain of heat. πŸ™‚

          Can you please use normal human metrics like Celsius ? this is why we can never get along πŸ˜‰

          HEre is the past month here:
          https://www.accuweather.com/en/jo/amman/221790/month/221790?view=table

          it is not canada cold but still cold for us...

          LOL. My apologies. (In Celsius) Sweatshirt to 23.8, 43.3 in Vegas, Texas (higher humidity) or 38.3 in Mexico with humidity. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

          Used Google converter.

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          • Emad RE
            Emad R @pmoncho
            last edited by Emad R

            @pmoncho

            Oh also I forgot to tell you , i did wet cupping or hijamah recently, to improve blood cirulation

            Youtube Video

            I understand it can freak ppl out, but I thought what the hell I want to try everything, the idea is that apparently we have filters or blood accumulation in the back, large of them, and donating blood helps and does similar effects but what this does is make them clot, and try to capture as much as possible toxin bloods , i liked it, the person and center was very clean and it is kinda in our tradition and religion. I heard Michael Phelps does the dry verison.

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco @Emad R
              last edited by

              @Emad-R I often see UFC fighters with cupping marks on them when they get into the ring.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @Dashrender
                  last edited by Obsolesce

                  @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                  @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                  @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                  @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                  @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                  My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                  Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                  I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                  Study 1:
                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                  Study2:
                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                  (Supplemental Article)

                  Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                  Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                  Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                  http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                  I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                  But I will say that you are correct here:

                  @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                  ... exercise and sun

                  and diet of course.

                  Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

                  I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

                  His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

                  This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

                  I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

                  You obviously read zero of what I posted earlier... so meh.

                  If you read none of it, at least glance at this one.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @Emad R
                    last edited by

                    @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                    @pmoncho

                    Oh also I forgot to tell you , i did wet cupping or hijamah recently, to improve blood cirulation

                    Youtube Video

                    I understand it can freak ppl out, but I thought what the hell I want to try everything, the idea is that apparently we have filters or blood accumulation in the back, large of them, and donating blood helps and does similar effects but what this does is make them clot, and try to capture as much as possible toxin bloods , i liked it, the person and center was very clean and it is kinda in our tradition and religion. I heard Michael Phelps does the dry verison.

                    I did the dry version last week.. it was painful... and I still have the bruises

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                      @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                      @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                      @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                      My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                      Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                      I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                      Study 1:
                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                      Study2:
                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                      (Supplemental Article)

                      Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                      Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                      https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                      Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                      http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                      I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                      But I will say that you are correct here:

                      @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                      ... exercise and sun

                      and diet of course.

                      Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

                      I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

                      His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

                      This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

                      I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

                      You obviously read zero of what I posted earlier... so meh.

                      If you read none of it, at least glance at this one.

                      I’m working I don’t have time to read through all those links NOW.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                        Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                        I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                        Study 1:
                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                        Study2:
                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                        (Supplemental Article)

                        Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                        https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                        Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                        Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                        http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                        I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                        But I will say that you are correct here:

                        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        ... exercise and sun

                        and diet of course.

                        Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

                        I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

                        His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

                        This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

                        I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

                        You obviously read zero of what I posted earlier... so meh.

                        If you read none of it, at least glance at this one.

                        I’m working I don’t have time to read through all those links NOW.

                        ...

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                        • LilAngL
                          LilAng
                          last edited by

                          Egg yolks and Cheese also have vitamin D. Not as much as fatty fish, but it can help.

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                          • LilAngL
                            LilAng @LilAng
                            last edited by

                            @LilAng said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                            Egg yolks and Cheese also have vitamin D. Not as much as fatty fish, but it can help.

                            also since I can't drink milk (because it makes me sick) I drink unsweetened coconut milk and that also has vitamin D.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
                              last edited by

                              Also, there is sunlight.

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                              • LilAngL
                                LilAng @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller maybe where you are LOL

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  Or this: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                  https://www.amazon.com/Angel-Kiss-Portable-Phototherapy-Fluorescent/dp/B06XCGGJ7C

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                    Or this: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                    https://www.amazon.com/Angel-Kiss-Portable-Phototherapy-Fluorescent/dp/B06XCGGJ7C

                                    Not to be confused with an Angie Kiss. LOL

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                                    • RojoLocoR
                                      RojoLoco @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                      Or this: :face_with_tears_of_joy:

                                      https://www.amazon.com/Angel-Kiss-Portable-Phototherapy-Fluorescent/dp/B06XCGGJ7C

                                      Or sit under a grow lamp...

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @Emad R
                                        last edited by Dashrender

                                        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                        @Dashrender

                                        Dude your more screwed than I, with 4.7 ratio, I am 4.3

                                        You need to worry about Raising HDL and not lowering LDL. LDL is good to have in normal amount.

                                        Consume olive oil. Extra virgin olive oil may be more healthful than processed olive oils. ...
                                        Follow a low-carb or ketogenic diet. ...
                                        Exercise regularly. ...
                                        Stop smoking. ...
                                        Lose weight. ...
                                        Eat fatty fish often.
                                        Avoid artificial trans fats

                                        from
                                        https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318598.php

                                        That test was last year 5 weeks after I started my current exercise routine (6 days a week cardio kickboxing and strength training). I'll get another blood work panel at 1 year and see how things have changed.

                                        Your listed diet has basically been my diet since July of 2018. I've never smoked - I'm an asthmatic - I hate smoking and smoke - don't really hate the smokers - but I do hate the fact that they smoke and pollute my air!

                                        As for weight, I'm lighter and taller than you. 177.8 cm and 76.4 kg I've been machine measured at 12.5% body fat, and pitch tested at 11.4%.

                                        The doc definitely said it's odd that my HDL is so low.. and the only suggestion he could make to fix it was drinking red wine. The oils were not mentioned.

                                        I eat salmon 10-20 times a month (over lunch and dinners)... I'm pretty sure I'm getting covered there. That's been the case for more than a decade.

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                          @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                          @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                          @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                          @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                          @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                          My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                                          Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                                          I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                                          Study 1:
                                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                                          Study2:
                                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                                          (Supplemental Article)

                                          Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                                          https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                                          Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                                          https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                                          Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                                          http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                                          I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                                          But I will say that you are correct here:

                                          @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                          ... exercise and sun

                                          and diet of course.

                                          Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

                                          I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

                                          His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

                                          This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

                                          I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

                                          You obviously read zero of what I posted earlier... so meh.

                                          If you read none of it, at least glance at this one.

                                          Interesting. 10 mins 2-3 times a week, as long as you're wearing short sleeves and shorts (likely sans socks). I read that sun exposure pushes Vit D levels 90,000+ IU with regular exposure. I'm not saying we need that much.. clearly, Carter's little liver pills showed that 400 IU a day cured scruvy...

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                                          • Emad RE
                                            Emad R @Dashrender
                                            last edited by

                                            @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                            I eat salmon 10-20 times a month (over lunch and dinners)... I'm pretty sure I'm getting covered there. That's been the case for more than a decade.

                                            Btw I found out today Low HDL can be related

                                            to
                                            Diabetes or PreDiabetes
                                            and Thyroid Glands issues.

                                            I did test for both today and pending results

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