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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @Emad R
      last edited by Obsolesce

      @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

      My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

      Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

      I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

      Study 1:
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
      Study2:
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

      (Supplemental Article)

      Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

      Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
      https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

      Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
      http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

      I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

      But I will say that you are correct here:

      @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

      ... exercise and sun

      and diet of course.

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @Obsolesce
        last edited by

        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

        Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

        I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

        Study 1:
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
        Study2:
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

        (Supplemental Article)

        Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
        https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

        Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

        Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
        http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

        I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

        But I will say that you are correct here:

        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

        ... exercise and sun

        and diet of course.

        Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

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        • ObsolesceO
          Obsolesce @Dashrender
          last edited by Obsolesce

          @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

          @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

          @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

          My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

          Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

          I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

          Study 1:
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
          Study2:
          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

          (Supplemental Article)

          Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
          https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

          Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
          https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

          Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
          http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

          I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

          But I will say that you are correct here:

          @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

          ... exercise and sun

          and diet of course.

          Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

          I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

          His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

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          • Emad RE
            Emad R @Obsolesce
            last edited by Emad R

            @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

            xercise, and sleep well.

            Yeah I agree I dont think it is right to take that much amount to be honest.
            I will try to get it from outside, but the weather for the last 2-3 months was aweful, very cold and I cant stand the cold anymore, I get extra cold other than anyone else.

            488c42d6-5f32-425d-b2a1-a2d83d867578-image.png

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            • pmonchoP
              pmoncho @Dashrender
              last edited by

              @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

              @pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

              @Dashrender

              I rarely go to the doctor and have not had blood work in a few years. My fiance was going through my old medical results from a Health insurance exam and she said all my labs looked great. I chuckled as I don't do much health wise (don't eat bad but not good, drink and smoke and don't exercise) but am apparently fit as a fiddle.

              Lucky genetics.

              Yeah. I suppose. Working on changing patterns as luck will always run out.

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              • Emad RE
                Emad R @Dashrender
                last edited by Emad R

                @Dashrender

                Dude your more screwed than I, with 4.7 ratio, I am 4.3

                You need to worry about Raising HDL and not lowering LDL. LDL is good to have in normal amount.

                Consume olive oil. Extra virgin olive oil may be more healthful than processed olive oils. ...
                Follow a low-carb or ketogenic diet. ...
                Exercise regularly. ...
                Stop smoking. ...
                Lose weight. ...
                Eat fatty fish often.
                Avoid artificial trans fats

                from
                https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318598.php

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                • pmonchoP
                  pmoncho @Emad R
                  last edited by

                  @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                  @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                  xercise, and sleep well.

                  Yeah I agree I dont think it is right to take that much amount to be honest.
                  I will try to get it from outside, but the whether for the most 2-3 months was aweful, very cold and I cant stand the cold anymore, I get extra cold other than anyone else.

                  I'm a freeze baby myself. Sweatshirts up to 75. I will take 110 in Vegas and even in TX or Mexico all day long. I love laughing at my friends when they complain of heat. πŸ™‚

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @Emad R
                    last edited by Obsolesce

                    @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                    @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                    xercise, and sleep well.

                    Yeah I agree I dont think it is right to take that much amount to be honest.
                    I will try to get it from outside, but the whether for the most 2-3 months was aweful, very cold and I cant stand the cold anymore, I get extra cold other than anyone else.

                    488c42d6-5f32-425d-b2a1-a2d83d867578-image.png

                    I read this before, but you can still get Vitamin D made during cloudy weather, it just takes longer. The clouds if I remember correctly halve the UV energy (I need to re-verify this, but I think it's roughly accurate) that reaches your skin.

                    Perhaps much much smaller amounts of supplementation could help during those days. I believe it would be better than absolutely nothing at all.

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                    • Emad RE
                      Emad R @pmoncho
                      last edited by

                      @pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                      I'm a freeze baby myself. Sweatshirts up to 75. I will take 110 in Vegas and even in TX or Mexico all day long. I love laughing at my friends when they complain of heat. πŸ™‚

                      Can you please use normal human metrics like Celsius ? this is why we can never get along πŸ˜‰

                      HEre is the past month here:
                      https://www.accuweather.com/en/jo/amman/221790/month/221790?view=table

                      it is not canada cold but still cold for us...

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                        Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                        I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                        Study 1:
                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                        Study2:
                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                        (Supplemental Article)

                        Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                        https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                        Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                        Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                        http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                        I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                        But I will say that you are correct here:

                        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                        ... exercise and sun

                        and diet of course.

                        Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

                        I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

                        His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

                        This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

                        I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

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                        • pmonchoP
                          pmoncho @Emad R
                          last edited by

                          @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                          @pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                          I'm a freeze baby myself. Sweatshirts up to 75. I will take 110 in Vegas and even in TX or Mexico all day long. I love laughing at my friends when they complain of heat. πŸ™‚

                          Can you please use normal human metrics like Celsius ? this is why we can never get along πŸ˜‰

                          HEre is the past month here:
                          https://www.accuweather.com/en/jo/amman/221790/month/221790?view=table

                          it is not canada cold but still cold for us...

                          LOL. My apologies. (In Celsius) Sweatshirt to 23.8, 43.3 in Vegas, Texas (higher humidity) or 38.3 in Mexico with humidity. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                          Used Google converter.

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                          • Emad RE
                            Emad R @pmoncho
                            last edited by Emad R

                            @pmoncho

                            Oh also I forgot to tell you , i did wet cupping or hijamah recently, to improve blood cirulation

                            Youtube Video

                            I understand it can freak ppl out, but I thought what the hell I want to try everything, the idea is that apparently we have filters or blood accumulation in the back, large of them, and donating blood helps and does similar effects but what this does is make them clot, and try to capture as much as possible toxin bloods , i liked it, the person and center was very clean and it is kinda in our tradition and religion. I heard Michael Phelps does the dry verison.

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                            • RojoLocoR
                              RojoLoco @Emad R
                              last edited by

                              @Emad-R I often see UFC fighters with cupping marks on them when they get into the ring.

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                              • ObsolesceO
                                Obsolesce @Dashrender
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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @Dashrender
                                  last edited by Obsolesce

                                  @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                  @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                  @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                  @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                  @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                  My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                                  Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                                  I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                                  Study 1:
                                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                                  Study2:
                                  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                                  (Supplemental Article)

                                  Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                                  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                                  Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                                  https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                                  Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                                  http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                                  I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                                  But I will say that you are correct here:

                                  @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                  ... exercise and sun

                                  and diet of course.

                                  Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

                                  I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

                                  His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

                                  This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

                                  I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

                                  You obviously read zero of what I posted earlier... so meh.

                                  If you read none of it, at least glance at this one.

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @Emad R
                                    last edited by

                                    @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                    @pmoncho

                                    Oh also I forgot to tell you , i did wet cupping or hijamah recently, to improve blood cirulation

                                    Youtube Video

                                    I understand it can freak ppl out, but I thought what the hell I want to try everything, the idea is that apparently we have filters or blood accumulation in the back, large of them, and donating blood helps and does similar effects but what this does is make them clot, and try to capture as much as possible toxin bloods , i liked it, the person and center was very clean and it is kinda in our tradition and religion. I heard Michael Phelps does the dry verison.

                                    I did the dry version last week.. it was painful... and I still have the bruises

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                                    • DashrenderD
                                      Dashrender @Obsolesce
                                      last edited by

                                      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                      @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                      @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                      @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                      My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                                      Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                                      I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                                      Study 1:
                                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                                      Study2:
                                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                                      (Supplemental Article)

                                      Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                                      https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                                      Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                                      https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                                      Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                                      http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                                      I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                                      But I will say that you are correct here:

                                      @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                      ... exercise and sun

                                      and diet of course.

                                      Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

                                      I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

                                      His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

                                      This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

                                      I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

                                      You obviously read zero of what I posted earlier... so meh.

                                      If you read none of it, at least glance at this one.

                                      I’m working I don’t have time to read through all those links NOW.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                        @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                        @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                        My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                                        Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                                        I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                                        Study 1:
                                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                                        Study2:
                                        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                                        (Supplemental Article)

                                        Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                                        https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                                        Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                                        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                                        Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                                        http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                                        I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                                        But I will say that you are correct here:

                                        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                        ... exercise and sun

                                        and diet of course.

                                        Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

                                        I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

                                        His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

                                        This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

                                        I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

                                        You obviously read zero of what I posted earlier... so meh.

                                        If you read none of it, at least glance at this one.

                                        I’m working I don’t have time to read through all those links NOW.

                                        ...

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                                        • LilAngL
                                          LilAng
                                          last edited by

                                          Egg yolks and Cheese also have vitamin D. Not as much as fatty fish, but it can help.

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                                          • LilAngL
                                            LilAng @LilAng
                                            last edited by

                                            @LilAng said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                            Egg yolks and Cheese also have vitamin D. Not as much as fatty fish, but it can help.

                                            also since I can't drink milk (because it makes me sick) I drink unsweetened coconut milk and that also has vitamin D.

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