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    Low HDL Cholestrol :(

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    • Emad RE
      Emad R
      last edited by Emad R

      Hi

      I have the below test . I am surprised actually, i am 29 years old
      173 cm
      83 KG
      not obese (according to my standards), but surprised, let this be reminder so you guys move and test and workout. Other than that we are screwed cause our profession is very dormant.

      All the test is good, but notice the HDL ?

      I wonder is this causing all my recent health symptoms.

      Tired/fatigue most of the time
      brain fog
      no motivation to learn
      poor blood circulation as well especially at night
      headache

      Low HDL is related to vitamin D

      So will hit gym + omega 3 + eating fish + drinking olive oil

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender
        last edited by

        Interesting. My HDL is also on the low side, though I don't think it was that low.

        My LDL was in a good place according to my doc.

        The recommendation made to me was drink 1 glass red wine daily. This will drive the LDL even lower, and raise the HDL.

        I haven't actually followed this advice.

        I haven't heard of your symptoms being related to low HDL - if you find some science paper that says that, please post.

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        • coliverC
          coliver @Dashrender
          last edited by coliver

          @Dashrender Those symptoms sound like Vitamin D deficiency. I had a family member who went through that and it sounds very similar. As @Emad-R kind of diagnosed at the end of his post.

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          • pmonchoP
            pmoncho @Emad R
            last edited by

            @Emad-R

            If you need more Vitamin D, get more sun. I just eat more cereal with Vitamin D milk during the winter months and do more lawn work during the summer. I have many of the same symptoms as you but my HDL is fine so it may not be related. Mine is probably caused by to much beer. :winking_face:

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
              last edited by

              I have those same symptoms - and I take about 6-8000 IU a day of Vit D (in a pill).

              Damn you guys are going to make me call my doctor for a copy of my last blood work.

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              • pmonchoP
                pmoncho @Dashrender
                last edited by

                @Dashrender

                I rarely go to the doctor and have not had blood work in a few years. My fiance was going through my old medical results from a Health insurance exam and she said all my labs looked great. I chuckled as I don't do much health wise (don't eat bad but not good, drink and smoke and don't exercise) but am apparently fit as a fiddle.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @Emad R
                  last edited by Obsolesce

                  @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                  Low HDL is related to vitamin D

                  I wouldn't assume, I'd test specifically for vitamin D levels to make sure. It could be that, or it could be that plus other things on top of it. However, vitamin D is required and low levels help cause all kinds of problems, big and minor.

                  Here's where I'd give some great dietary, exercise, and sleep advice, backed by actual science and studies (not random articles from a random career journalist in it for the clicks), but I've been getting a lot of negative feedback for it lately, so I'm going to stop with it on here. However, you can search for my prior posts like this one.

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                  • Emad RE
                    Emad R @Dashrender
                    last edited by

                    @Dashrender

                    My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                    I dont know I feel like there is something I am missing, I like the red red Wine advice, but in my area it is frowned upon to drink

                    weird. But the keypoint is eat FISH and exercise and sun

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @pmoncho
                      last edited by

                      @pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                      @Dashrender

                      I rarely go to the doctor and have not had blood work in a few years. My fiance was going through my old medical results from a Health insurance exam and she said all my labs looked great. I chuckled as I don't do much health wise (don't eat bad but not good, drink and smoke and don't exercise) but am apparently fit as a fiddle.

                      Lucky genetics.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        Here is my last HDL and LDL results
                        bcaec486-12c5-4875-8a05-3fc648bbba53-image.png

                        I miss remembered.. HDL was low, but LDL was fine.

                        Again, they suggested I drink one 6 ounce glass of red wine daily. It will drive the HDL up, and the LDL down according to the doc.

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                        • ObsolesceO
                          Obsolesce @Emad R
                          last edited by Obsolesce

                          @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                          My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                          Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                          I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                          Study 1:
                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                          Study2:
                          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                          (Supplemental Article)

                          Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                          https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                          Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                          https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                          Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                          http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                          I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                          But I will say that you are correct here:

                          @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                          ... exercise and sun

                          and diet of course.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @Obsolesce
                            last edited by

                            @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                            @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                            My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                            Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                            I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                            Study 1:
                            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                            Study2:
                            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                            (Supplemental Article)

                            Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                            https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                            Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                            https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                            Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                            http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                            I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                            But I will say that you are correct here:

                            @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                            ... exercise and sun

                            and diet of course.

                            Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @Dashrender
                              last edited by Obsolesce

                              @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                              @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                              @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                              My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                              Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                              I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                              Study 1:
                              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                              Study2:
                              https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                              (Supplemental Article)

                              Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                              https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                              Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                              https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                              Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                              http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                              I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                              But I will say that you are correct here:

                              @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                              ... exercise and sun

                              and diet of course.

                              Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

                              I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

                              His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

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                              • Emad RE
                                Emad R @Obsolesce
                                last edited by Emad R

                                @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                xercise, and sleep well.

                                Yeah I agree I dont think it is right to take that much amount to be honest.
                                I will try to get it from outside, but the weather for the last 2-3 months was aweful, very cold and I cant stand the cold anymore, I get extra cold other than anyone else.

                                488c42d6-5f32-425d-b2a1-a2d83d867578-image.png

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                                • pmonchoP
                                  pmoncho @Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                  @pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                  @Dashrender

                                  I rarely go to the doctor and have not had blood work in a few years. My fiance was going through my old medical results from a Health insurance exam and she said all my labs looked great. I chuckled as I don't do much health wise (don't eat bad but not good, drink and smoke and don't exercise) but am apparently fit as a fiddle.

                                  Lucky genetics.

                                  Yeah. I suppose. Working on changing patterns as luck will always run out.

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                                  • Emad RE
                                    Emad R @Dashrender
                                    last edited by Emad R

                                    @Dashrender

                                    Dude your more screwed than I, with 4.7 ratio, I am 4.3

                                    You need to worry about Raising HDL and not lowering LDL. LDL is good to have in normal amount.

                                    Consume olive oil. Extra virgin olive oil may be more healthful than processed olive oils. ...
                                    Follow a low-carb or ketogenic diet. ...
                                    Exercise regularly. ...
                                    Stop smoking. ...
                                    Lose weight. ...
                                    Eat fatty fish often.
                                    Avoid artificial trans fats

                                    from
                                    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/318598.php

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                                    • pmonchoP
                                      pmoncho @Emad R
                                      last edited by

                                      @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                      @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                      xercise, and sleep well.

                                      Yeah I agree I dont think it is right to take that much amount to be honest.
                                      I will try to get it from outside, but the whether for the most 2-3 months was aweful, very cold and I cant stand the cold anymore, I get extra cold other than anyone else.

                                      I'm a freeze baby myself. Sweatshirts up to 75. I will take 110 in Vegas and even in TX or Mexico all day long. I love laughing at my friends when they complain of heat. πŸ™‚

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @Emad R
                                        last edited by Obsolesce

                                        @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                        @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                        xercise, and sleep well.

                                        Yeah I agree I dont think it is right to take that much amount to be honest.
                                        I will try to get it from outside, but the whether for the most 2-3 months was aweful, very cold and I cant stand the cold anymore, I get extra cold other than anyone else.

                                        488c42d6-5f32-425d-b2a1-a2d83d867578-image.png

                                        I read this before, but you can still get Vitamin D made during cloudy weather, it just takes longer. The clouds if I remember correctly halve the UV energy (I need to re-verify this, but I think it's roughly accurate) that reaches your skin.

                                        Perhaps much much smaller amounts of supplementation could help during those days. I believe it would be better than absolutely nothing at all.

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                                        • Emad RE
                                          Emad R @pmoncho
                                          last edited by

                                          @pmoncho said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                          I'm a freeze baby myself. Sweatshirts up to 75. I will take 110 in Vegas and even in TX or Mexico all day long. I love laughing at my friends when they complain of heat. πŸ™‚

                                          Can you please use normal human metrics like Celsius ? this is why we can never get along πŸ˜‰

                                          HEre is the past month here:
                                          https://www.accuweather.com/en/jo/amman/221790/month/221790?view=table

                                          it is not canada cold but still cold for us...

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                            @Dashrender said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                            @Obsolesce said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                            @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                            My Vitamin D last test was 30 which is low, taking pills for it, my doctor suggested 50.000 IU weekly.

                                            Your doctor made a suggestion of taking a lot of Vitamin D supplementation.

                                            I'm just an IT guy, but I disagree with your doctor and here's why:

                                            Study 1:
                                            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23250508
                                            Study2:
                                            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24703049

                                            (Supplemental Article)

                                            Do You Need to Take Vitamin D?
                                            https://www.huffpost.com/entry/personal-health_b_4449324?ir=Health+News&utm_hp_ref=health-news

                                            Vitamin D status and ill health: a systematic review
                                            https://www.thelancet.com/journals/landia/article/PIIS2213-8587(13)70165-7/fulltext

                                            Vitamin D- The Good, The Bad and The Unknown
                                            http://www.perfect-supplements.com/blog/16794/vitamin-d-the-good-the-bad-and-the-unknown/

                                            I won't say anything, only link references so this way I can't be attacked by you all over it.

                                            But I will say that you are correct here:

                                            @Emad-R said in Low HDL Cholestrol 😞:

                                            ... exercise and sun

                                            and diet of course.

                                            Why would sun matter if you don't think he should get more Vit D, or at least shouldn't get more from supplements?

                                            I'll clarify what I meant by my post:

                                            His Vitamin D levels are low. His doctor tells him to take high Vitamin D supplementation. I disagree with this, and think he should instead get his Vitamin D from the sun (which actually doesn't take long if you read the articles and studies), as well as eat healthy, exercise, and sleep well.

                                            This of course assumes he has a normal skin response. Also some people just don’t have time to spend say 30 mins daily outside in the noon sun.

                                            I’m sure there are many other benefits to being in the sun other that Vit D, but the time can be a real issue. I know right now I’m not going to with it being 15 or lower all week πŸ˜›

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