Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.
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@obsolesce said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
This is my first time looking at Guacamole.
I just want a simple way of remote desktoping to a Linux PC, from another Windows or Linux PC.
Is Guacamole Base/Server/Client (what's the difference?) the type of thing I would install on a simple Linux PC for that purpose?
Should I just use TeamViewer instead?
NoMachine is another option.
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@travisdh1 From what I've heard, Guacamole on Fedora is pretty unstable. How has this been running for you?
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@wirestyle22 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@travisdh1 From what I've heard, Guacamole on Fedora is pretty unstable. How has this been running for you?
@travisdh1 Yeah, I want to know too
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@wirestyle22 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@travisdh1 From what I've heard, Guacamole on Fedora is pretty unstable. How has this been running for you?
The base install here using the user-mappings.xml for everything has been working great. I only have it pointing to two different things on the back end. It was still up and running when I checked it just now tho.
The thing with Guacamole right now is that the documentation is just..... crap. It says different options are available in the user-mappings.xml which always break things.
dnf-automatic is running. I'll try rebooting it tonight and see if it comes back up correctly.
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@travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
The thing with Guacamole right now is that the documentation is just..... crap. It says different options are available in the user-mappings.xml which always break things.
That's the base problem with Fedora installs, I think. Not that it isn't stable, but that it's not documented properly.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
The thing with Guacamole right now is that the documentation is just..... crap. It says different options are available in the user-mappings.xml which always break things.
That's the base problem with Fedora installs, I think. Not that it isn't stable, but that it's not documented properly.
I'd be very surprised if it acted any differently on any platform. One of the big reasons I decided to do a guide on it is how it just breaks when using many of the supposed options. Not that I really expect great documentation for anything before v1 is out, but at least take down known broken stuff!
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@travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
The thing with Guacamole right now is that the documentation is just..... crap. It says different options are available in the user-mappings.xml which always break things.
That's the base problem with Fedora installs, I think. Not that it isn't stable, but that it's not documented properly.
I'd be very surprised if it acted any differently on any platform. One of the big reasons I decided to do a guide on it is how it just breaks when using many of the supposed options. Not that I really expect great documentation for anything before v1 is out, but at least take down known broken stuff!
Besides incomplete or bad documentation, what is specifically unstable about it on Fedora or other distros?
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@black3dynamite said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
The thing with Guacamole right now is that the documentation is just..... crap. It says different options are available in the user-mappings.xml which always break things.
That's the base problem with Fedora installs, I think. Not that it isn't stable, but that it's not documented properly.
I'd be very surprised if it acted any differently on any platform. One of the big reasons I decided to do a guide on it is how it just breaks when using many of the supposed options. Not that I really expect great documentation for anything before v1 is out, but at least take down known broken stuff!
Besides incomplete or bad documentation, what is specifically unstable about it on Fedora or other distros?
For me so far, nothing.
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Huh, it is unstable. That really sucks.
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@travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
Huh, it is unstable. That really sucks.
With SELinux set to permissive or disabled?
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@black3dynamite said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
Huh, it is unstable. That really sucks.
With SELinux set to permissive or disabled?
Disabled
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@travisdh1 said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
Disable selinux (sad admin)
sed -i 's/SELINUX=enforcing/SELINUX=disabled/' /etc/selinux/config setenforce 0
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I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.
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@irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.
Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.
Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.
I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?
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@irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.
Yeah, if you already have another remote gateway. Just about anything else looks good at the moment.
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@irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.
Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.
I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?
Why does it have to be without technical expertise?
For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. How do they do that with NX? With Guac, it is easy.
Or anytime someone needs to work from a place where they can't install something.
How do you handle gateway services for NX, do you have a mechanism or just use different ports?
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@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.
Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.
I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?
For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \
SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.
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@stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.
Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.
I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?
For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \
SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.
RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?
I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.
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@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@stacksofplates said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@scottalanmiller said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
@irj said in Fedora 28 Guacamole base install.:
I see no value in Guacamole, personally. No Machine is a much better option.
Doesn't deal with the web interface. NX requires a client. Guacamole is as much a front end to NX as it is to any other protocol.
I wonder how often you really need people with no technical expertise to connect remotely to a linux machine?
For example, I have users on Chromebooks that need remote Linux access. \
SSH or RDP. I agree with @IRJ, it (Guacamole) just seems like a hassle.
RDP is pretty cumbersome in some cases for that stuff. And does that mean no NX, or having to maintain multiple for each box?
I definitely find Guac worlds easier. For one thing, it maintains a list of available resources. So the access listing is centralized, rather than making people maintain it on desktops.
I've never found d RDP cumbersome. I'm not talking about using NX on a Chromebook. Anything that isn't a Chromebook, NX is easier. For the Chromebook people SSH is native RDP is easy.
This whole thread is around how Guacamole isn't easy. You also don't need this to have a centralized list. If you're using CM you're going to have a list of systems anyway.
