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    • DustinB3403D
      DustinB3403
      last edited by DustinB3403

      So with both the XO installer and updater scripts that have been developed with help from the community, it's about time that we consider applying a license to both.

      Initially I thought AGPLv3 would be best, but I'm also seeing some value in MIT.

      https://choosealicense.com/licenses/

      Any input?

      Update: Please take the poll for your preference.

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      • coliverC
        coliver
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        AGPLv3 forces the software to be released with the same license. MIT doesn't. I think that's the big take away.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @coliver
          last edited by

          @coliver do you think there would be any reason for these scripts to not have the strongest license?

          This way anything that comes down the pipe is available to everyone from the get-go.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
            last edited by

            @dustinb3403 said in GNU AGPLv3 vs MIT licensing:

            @coliver do you think there would be any reason for these scripts to not have the strongest license?

            This way anything that comes down the pipe is available to everyone from the get-go.

            AGPLv3 forces everyone to contribute back. MIT does not. Probably doesn't matter for this kind of thing.

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            • coliverC
              coliver @DustinB3403
              last edited by coliver

              @dustinb3403 said in GNU AGPLv3 vs MIT licensing:

              @coliver do you think there would be any reason for these scripts to not have the strongest license?

              This way anything that comes down the pipe is available to everyone from the get-go.

              I am partial to the AGPL license just because it forces everything that uses it to maintain the same license and any modifications need to be shared back to the community, if it is released. (I don't do software dev just thinking from a enthusiasts point of view).

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              • DustinB3403D
                DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller that was kind of my thinking that the contributions back to the primary would be best this way you have one system that just works for everybody and you don't have to worry about disparaging differences between 1 fork or another

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  @dustinb3403 said in GNU AGPLv3 vs MIT licensing:

                  @scottalanmiller that was kind of my thinking that the contributions back to the primary would be best this way you have one system that just works for everybody and you don't have to worry about disparaging differences between 1 fork or another

                  As people don't host it, though, likely doesn't matter.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller So you think AGPLv3 is fine?

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by

                      Let's take a poll

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403
                        last edited by

                        Poll closed, GPL'd both.

                        Calling on @olivier to license https://github.com/vatesfr/xo

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                          @dustinb3403 said in GNU AGPLv3 vs MIT licensing:

                          @scottalanmiller So you think AGPLv3 is fine?

                          yeah, don't think that it would make any difference as there is no hosted version of the code, so what would it affect?

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                          • olivierO
                            olivier
                            last edited by olivier

                            aGPLv3 if you think some "hosters" can use it without contributing (ie not actually run the code on your machine = no need to share your modification with GPLv2 for example).

                            Guess which license made AWS adding stuff to Xen without sharing it? So, even if I'm selling software, I'm convinced aGPLv3 is more fair toward the community. /my2cents

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                            • coliverC
                              coliver @olivier
                              last edited by coliver

                              @olivier said in GNU AGPLv3 vs MIT licensing:

                              aGPLv3 if you think some "hosters" can use it without contributing (ie not actually run the code on your machine = no need to share your modification with GPLv2 for example).

                              Guess which license made AWS adding stuff to Xen without sharing it? So, even if I'm selling software, I'm convinced aGPLv3 is more fair toward the community. /my2cents

                              Xen is MIT licensed isn't it? Nope GPL2. Duh should have trusted the dev.

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                              • DustinB3403D
                                DustinB3403 @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said in GNU AGPLv3 vs MIT licensing:

                                @olivier said in GNU AGPLv3 vs MIT licensing:

                                aGPLv3 if you think some "hosters" can use it without contributing (ie not actually run the code on your machine = no need to share your modification with GPLv2 for example).

                                Guess which license made AWS adding stuff to Xen without sharing it? So, even if I'm selling software, I'm convinced aGPLv3 is more fair toward the community. /my2cents

                                Xen is MIT licensed isn't it?

                                GPLv2 from what I can see.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @coliver
                                  last edited by

                                  @coliver said in GNU AGPLv3 vs MIT licensing:

                                  @olivier said in GNU AGPLv3 vs MIT licensing:

                                  aGPLv3 if you think some "hosters" can use it without contributing (ie not actually run the code on your machine = no need to share your modification with GPLv2 for example).

                                  Guess which license made AWS adding stuff to Xen without sharing it? So, even if I'm selling software, I'm convinced aGPLv3 is more fair toward the community. /my2cents

                                  Xen is MIT licensed isn't it? Nope GPL2. Duh should have trusted the dev.

                                  Xen probably predates the MIT license!

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                                  • R
                                    rjt @olivier
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                                    @olivier Definitely worth repeating this old post. Oracle has given back so much more than Amazon.

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