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    HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?

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    • nadnerBN
      nadnerB @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

      @mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

      @scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

      @mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

      Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?

      I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery

      We have one HP laptop here, but no Windows. So doesn't affect us.

      Nuke it, geez mate what are you waiting for 🙂

      Jeremy already hates it enough as it is. He's so jealous of the Dell and Asus machines.

      I contractor I worked with said that HP stood for Hardly Productive.

      I've not found it to be the case but YMMV.

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      • dbeatoD
        dbeato @MattSpeller
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        @mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

        @scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

        @mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

        Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?

        I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery

        We have one HP laptop here, but no Windows. So doesn't affect us.

        Nuke it, geez mate what are you waiting for 🙂

        Waiting on my HP Contact, they are not giving statement yet.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          /sigh!

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          • caramelC
            caramel
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            Oh HP, what were you thinking?

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              Now we just need Dell to pull this shit for the trifecta.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                @dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                Now we just need Dell to pull this shit for the trifecta.

                Private company without the pressures of Wall St. They are the least likely to pull this BS, I think.

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                  @dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                  Now we just need Dell to pull this shit for the trifecta.

                  Private company without the pressures of Wall St. They are the least likely to pull this BS, I think.

                  Maybe.

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                  • KellyK
                    Kelly @MattSpeller
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                    @mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                    Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?

                    I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery

                    It was on my Spectre 360. No notification, no nothing.

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                    • nadnerBN
                      nadnerB @Kelly
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                      @kelly said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                      @mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                      Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?

                      I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery

                      It was on my Spectre 360. No notification, no nothing.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                        @dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                        Now we just need Dell to pull this shit for the trifecta.

                        Private company without the pressures of Wall St. They are the least likely to pull this BS, I think.

                        Only recently private again though.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                          @jaredbusch said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                          @scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                          @dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                          Now we just need Dell to pull this shit for the trifecta.

                          Private company without the pressures of Wall St. They are the least likely to pull this BS, I think.

                          Only recently private again though.

                          It's been a few years. A long time in the "spyware pushed to your private machines" era.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender
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                            I wonder if there is some something buried in HP's EULA that allows them to do this. Frankly I'd be surprised if there wasn't.

                            This isn't like the Lenovo spyware. Superfish was a third party app, HP's stuff seems to be about keeping an eye on HP stuff for HP, there's an obvious difference. That said, if there is no language at all in any previously agreed upon EULA, well then I guess HP is just screwed.

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                              marcinozga @Dashrender
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                              @dashrender HP can keep an eye on HP stuff, but the moment I swipe the credit card, that stuff is MINE. Not HPs. So to them I say F..k off of MY gear.

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                              • momurdaM
                                momurda @Dashrender
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                                @dashrender It is not HP stuff. It belongs to me or the company for whom i work.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @marcinozga
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                                  @marcinozga said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                                  @dashrender HP can keep an eye on HP stuff, but the moment I swipe the credit card, that stuff is MINE. Not HPs. So to them I say F..k off of MY gear.

                                  Right. It’s not theirs the moment that they accept payment for it.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                                    I wonder if there is some something buried in HP's EULA that allows them to do this. Frankly I'd be surprised if there wasn't.

                                    This isn't like the Lenovo spyware. Superfish was a third party app, HP's stuff seems to be about keeping an eye on HP stuff for HP, there's an obvious difference. That said, if there is no language at all in any previously agreed upon EULA, well then I guess HP is just screwed.

                                    Superfish was NOT a third party app! It was part of Lenovo’s drivers.

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                                      @jaredbusch said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                                      @dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                                      Now we just need Dell to pull this shit for the trifecta.

                                      Private company without the pressures of Wall St. They are the least likely to pull this BS, I think.

                                      Only recently private again though.

                                      It's been a few years. A long time in the "spyware pushed to your private machines" era.

                                      Well, they were public, but then Michael Dell bought it back, and is now private. I forget when that was but yeah it's been a bit now.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                        @dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                                        This isn't like the Lenovo spyware. Superfish was a third party app, HP's stuff seems to be about keeping an eye on HP stuff for HP, there's an obvious difference. That said, if there is no language at all in any previously agreed upon EULA, well then I guess HP is just screwed.

                                        There is no obvious difference. What are you thinking is different? Both cases are vendors spying on end users without known permission.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                          @dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:

                                          I wonder if there is some something buried in HP's EULA that allows them to do this. Frankly I'd be surprised if there wasn't.

                                          EULA is for the software, not the hardware. Would be essentially impossible for HP to have a EULA that covers this as it doesn’t get added to HP software.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Here is HP’s EULA. Clearly doesn’t allow this....

                                            1. NOTICE OF DATA COLLECTION. You agree that HP and its affiliates may collect, combine, and use device and individual user information you provide in relation to support services related to the Software Product. HP agrees not to use this information to market to you without your consent. Learn More about HP data collection practices at www.hp.com/go/privacy.
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