HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?
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@tim_g said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@tim_g said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@guyinpv said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Google is storing THEIR data, not mine.
And you know this?
You know HP is not just storing HP hardware related usage info?
This is a good point.
What big companies say they do, and what they actually do, are two very different things. It's just a matter of if/when they get caught.
One might say well Google has a reputation and will not do something like that. Sure, until they do. Just like Lenovo and HP didn't... until they did.
Yes, but we are talking about malware here, not data retention. So the assertion is that Google is making malware and stealing data from our machines. THis is a slippery slope argument. Once "anyone can be a crook" is all it takes to justify anything, everything is justified.
Oh I know, I was just using Google as an example to make a point.
But what is the point? That we should not care what companies get caught doing because we assume someone else didn't get caught for something different? What use is that logic - other than to excuse all illegal activity since we can never prove that we caught everyone. Crime can't exist, all ethics go out the window.
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Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?
I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery
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@mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?
I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery
We have one HP laptop here, but no Windows. So doesn't affect us.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?
I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery
We have one HP laptop here, but no Windows. So doesn't affect us.
Nuke it, geez mate what are you waiting for
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@mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?
I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery
We have one HP laptop here, but no Windows. So doesn't affect us.
Nuke it, geez mate what are you waiting for
Jeremy already hates it enough as it is. He's so jealous of the Dell and Asus machines.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?
I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery
We have one HP laptop here, but no Windows. So doesn't affect us.
Nuke it, geez mate what are you waiting for
Jeremy already hates it enough as it is. He's so jealous of the Dell and Asus machines.
I contractor I worked with said that HP stood for Hardly Productive.
I've not found it to be the case but YMMV.
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@mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?
I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery
We have one HP laptop here, but no Windows. So doesn't affect us.
Nuke it, geez mate what are you waiting for
Waiting on my HP Contact, they are not giving statement yet.
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/sigh!
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Oh HP, what were you thinking?
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Now we just need Dell to pull this shit for the trifecta.
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@dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Now we just need Dell to pull this shit for the trifecta.
Private company without the pressures of Wall St. They are the least likely to pull this BS, I think.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Now we just need Dell to pull this shit for the trifecta.
Private company without the pressures of Wall St. They are the least likely to pull this BS, I think.
Maybe.
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@mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?
I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery
It was on my Spectre 360. No notification, no nothing.
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@kelly said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@mattspeller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Have we got any confirmation by a forum member of this being a real thing?
I don't want to start the witch hunt without evidence of fuckwittery
It was on my Spectre 360. No notification, no nothing.
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@scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Now we just need Dell to pull this shit for the trifecta.
Private company without the pressures of Wall St. They are the least likely to pull this BS, I think.
Only recently private again though.
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@jaredbusch said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@scottalanmiller said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@dashrender said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
Now we just need Dell to pull this shit for the trifecta.
Private company without the pressures of Wall St. They are the least likely to pull this BS, I think.
Only recently private again though.
It's been a few years. A long time in the "spyware pushed to your private machines" era.
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I wonder if there is some something buried in HP's EULA that allows them to do this. Frankly I'd be surprised if there wasn't.
This isn't like the Lenovo spyware. Superfish was a third party app, HP's stuff seems to be about keeping an eye on HP stuff for HP, there's an obvious difference. That said, if there is no language at all in any previously agreed upon EULA, well then I guess HP is just screwed.
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@dashrender HP can keep an eye on HP stuff, but the moment I swipe the credit card, that stuff is MINE. Not HPs. So to them I say F..k off of MY gear.
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@dashrender It is not HP stuff. It belongs to me or the company for whom i work.
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@marcinozga said in HP Possible pulling a Lenovo with Stealthy spyware?:
@dashrender HP can keep an eye on HP stuff, but the moment I swipe the credit card, that stuff is MINE. Not HPs. So to them I say F..k off of MY gear.
Right. It’s not theirs the moment that they accept payment for it.
