Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop
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@Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:
I think I will stick with Gnome over Cinnamon on Korora. Not just because I'm afraid to break my currently working setup, but because it's actually starting to grow on me.
I can actually feel a productivity increase using my computer this way over the standard Windows-like Cinnamon layout.
I like how the "Windows key" on the keyboard shows all your open windows, easy access to other screens, and search. Also moving mouse to upper left hand corner does the same thing.
I don't know, it's more than just that though... if you know what I mean. It seems cleaner too.
Gnome and Unity is pretty much my comfort Desktops. The layout is clean and doesn't have that windows 7 mouse clicking needs.
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I think the majority of my issues are due to the issue the Bumblebee-Project addresses.
Fedora has a Bumblebee Wiki regarding this, which I will try out later (tonight hopefully) and post results.
I still would like to get things in working order, so I can edit my top posts of the whole procedure and end up with a working machine all around.
I can't get far enough with the Korora Cinnamon install to try this, so I will have to get everything going on Gnome desktop first. Then maybe I will try to figure out a way to switch to Cinnamon once I get the graphics crap straightened out.
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@JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
@Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.
@Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.
here is what mine says.
Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.
Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.
I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.
I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!
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@Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:
@JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
@Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.
@Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.
here is what mine says.
Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.
Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.
I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.
I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!
If you have one of those NVIDIA Optimus GPUs in your laptop, you'll need the Bumblebee driver working, I do believe.
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@Tim_G By default Korora 25 Gnome is using Wayland and believe Korora 25 Cinnamon is still using xorg. Maybe that's why the Gnome version is working for you.
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@dafyre said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:
@Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:
@JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
@Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.
@Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.
here is what mine says.
Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.
Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.
I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.
I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!
If you have one of those NVIDIA Optimus GPUs in your laptop, you'll need the Bumblebee driver working, I do believe.
That's what I thought too. But after it was installed, nothing changed. Even after I rebooted. Everything showed up the same as it did before I installed it. The more I did, it ended with my laptop not booting to the GUI anymore.
Is it like this with laptops using high-end AMD graphics cards? Just NVidia?
I really don't understand why things just won't work using the Linux drivers provided by NVidia. Why must you run around the world 4 times to get things working using this and that, if you're lucky?
(note, Korora 25 Cinnamon works great on my Dell Latitude e6440... not a single issue whatsoever. This seems to be specific to high-end NVidia graphics cards)
From the NVidia website:
Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver Version: 375.66 Release Date: 2017.5.4 Operating System: Linux 64-bit Language: English (US) File Size: 71.62 MBI haven't yet just straight up tried that above driver from NVidia. I'll try that tonight. But I'm not hopeful, considering everywhere I look says I need this and that, and to not use the drivers provided by NVidia. Who knows!
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@black3dynamite said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:
@Tim_G By default Korora 25 Gnome is using Wayland and believe Korora 25 Cinnamon is still using xorg. Maybe that's why the Gnome version is working for you.
I didn't know that. That make a little more sense.
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@black3dynamite said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:
@Tim_G By default Korora 25 Gnome is using Wayland and believe Korora 25 Cinnamon is still using xorg. Maybe that's why the Gnome version is working for you.
Oh that's interesting.
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@Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:
@dafyre said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:
@Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:
@JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
@Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.
@Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:
When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.
here is what mine says.
Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.
Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.
I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.
I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!
If you have one of those NVIDIA Optimus GPUs in your laptop, you'll need the Bumblebee driver working, I do believe.
That's what I thought too. But after it was installed, nothing changed. Even after I rebooted. Everything showed up the same as it did before I installed it. The more I did, it ended with my laptop not booting to the GUI anymore.
Is it like this with laptops using high-end AMD graphics cards? Just NVidia?
I really don't understand why things just won't work using the Linux drivers provided by NVidia. Why must you run around the world 4 times to get things working using this and that, if you're lucky?
(note, Korora 25 Cinnamon works great on my Dell Latitude e6440... not a single issue whatsoever. This seems to be specific to high-end NVidia graphics cards)
From the NVidia website:
Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver Version: 375.66 Release Date: 2017.5.4 Operating System: Linux 64-bit Language: English (US) File Size: 71.62 MBI haven't yet just straight up tried that above driver from NVidia. I'll try that tonight. But I'm not hopeful, considering everywhere I look says I need this and that, and to not use the drivers provided by NVidia. Who knows!
Yeah, that will break it, lol.
In order to get things to run with the NVIDIA chip, you can prefix the commands with umm...
optirun, I think.... IE: to run Chrome with the NVIDIA drivers, it'd be :
optirun /usr/bin/google-chrome -
I got Korora 25 Gnome reinstalled and fully updated.
I don't think I'm going to mess with any of the graphics stuff. It's working just fine. If there's any games I want to play, and I can't get it to use the nVidia card on Linux, I'll reboot and fire up Win10.
It looks like Google Chrome runs the best on here, much better and smoother than Firefox does.
Now that I know how to keep Korora stable, and have a stable web browser I can use efficiently, I'll let things simmer a few days and get the original intent of this thread reorganized and written.
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I'm toying with the idea of trying one more thing before settling on Korora Gnome for my personal laptop:
SteamOS. It's just a modified Debian Jessie distro, and you can go into desktop mode no problem (from what I've read).
It's starting to look like Debian is my best bet on getting this other stuff working. I'm going to test out SteamOS on an older laptop first, just to see what it looks like in desktop mode and such.
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Yeah that was a total fail.
No Linux on my personal laptop.
Simple reason: It doesn't work, and is a total time sink to attempt to get it to do what it should do.
I'll keep it on my work laptop because it does work and is not a time sink.
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Personal was the Asus?
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@scottalanmiller said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:
Personal was the Asus?
Yes
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We should start a community matrix of what distros work on what models.
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@Tim_G
There has to be a Linux disto that works.
This is the only one I can think that might work. Manjaro -
@black3dynamite said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:
@Tim_G
There has to be a Linux disto that works.
This is the only one I can think that might work. ManjaroWell I define "works" as more than boots to the desktop without issue.
For me, "works" means I don't have to waste 100s of hours trying to get the OS to recognize my hardware and it to work correctly.
Just because I can install an OS, and it boots to the desktop, doesn't mean it "works". I could probably load Win95 and boot to the desktop... that doesn't mean it's going to work.
I think the most popular graphics cards in the entire world should work. I think the most popular systems in the world should work. I think the most popular Bluetooth devices should work.
I shouldn't have to wait 10 years for my stuff to work on the newest Linux distros.
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@scottalanmiller said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:
We should start a community matrix of what distros work on what models.
Yes, I agree.
Perhaps a matrix of which distros actually boot to a working desktop after updates are ran, vs which distros work with a model's hardware.
For example, so far, my Asus model would be on the list of boots to a working desktop for Fedroa / Korora 25 Gnome... but not be on the list for actually supports the graphics hardware. All other distros so far cause a ton of issues. One of the major issues I have is the fans running at 100%, specifically on Debian builds and Arch.
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I know my video card issues are directly related to the issue "bumblebee project" is supposed to fix. But that doesn't work. After doing it correctly, my computer no longer boots to a working desktop, causing me to have to reload.... every time.
If there's a simple fix that actually works, then yes, add the laptop to the list as working with a special note. But so far, none of the "fixes" actually work. And I feel I shouldn't have to be a Linux genius with 100s of hours to waste to have to get things working correctly.
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The list should include distros that supports Wayland or Xorg.
