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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

      @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

      Somehow, Korora 25 Gnome installed just fine and is kinda mostly working...

      More on this later.

      Odd. But it didn't work before?

      I honestly don't remember everything I've tried. It's well over 10 different distros. I even tried Gentoo, which was freaking awesome, except my fans were running at 100%... so I didn't put much time into that one, though I'm sure it was an easy fix.

      I know I've tried a few different distros that use Gnome, I'm thinking Korora was one of them but I'm not sure anymore. If it didn't work before, and it does now, I've done nothing differently except now I'm dual booting with Win10 since the last try, which shouldn't make any different.

      I'm typing this on Korora 25 Gnome now. I can even shutdown properly if I hit ctrl+alt+F1 when it gets stuck.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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        @Tim_G Well awesome that it is working. Korora is slowly but surely taking over!

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller
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          We are going to be the official Korora community is no time šŸ™‚

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          • ObsolesceO
            Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

            We are going to be the official Korora community is no time šŸ™‚

            Yeah Korora is great. I'd prefer Cinnamon, but I'm starting to get used to Gnome in the same way I had to get used to Windows 8.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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              @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

              @scottalanmiller said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

              We are going to be the official Korora community is no time šŸ™‚

              Yeah Korora is great. I'd prefer Cinnamon, but I'm starting to get used to Gnome in the same way I had to get used to Windows 8.

              Now that Korora is installed, did you try adding it is as an additional option? Maybe it will work now that things are installed.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce
                last edited by Obsolesce

                I've literally never in my life added a printer as fast as I just did in Korora 25.

                I clicked Printers > add printer > it magically showed up in the list (it's on WiFi) > I clicked on it > added.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller
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                  @Dominica did a printer add with her Linux recently and couldn't believe how easy it was compared to Windows. She always had so many issues and suddenly things just worked.

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                    @Dominica did a printer add with her Linux recently and couldn't believe how easy it was compared to Windows. She always had so many issues and suddenly things just worked.

                    Yeah, on Win10... it took forever. And the last time it never even printed. It was iffy before that.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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                      @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                      @Dominica did a printer add with her Linux recently and couldn't believe how easy it was compared to Windows. She always had so many issues and suddenly things just worked.

                      Yeah, on Win10... it took forever. And the last time it never even printed. It was iffy before that.

                      Yup, she was often unable to print till going to Korora. Then everything was rock solid.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce
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                        I think I will stick with Gnome over Cinnamon on Korora. Not just because I'm afraid to break my currently working setup, but because it's actually starting to grow on me.

                        I can actually feel a productivity increase using my computer this way over the standard Windows-like Cinnamon layout.

                        I like how the "Windows key" on the keyboard shows all your open windows, easy access to other screens, and search. Also moving mouse to upper left hand corner does the same thing.

                        I don't know, it's more than just that though... if you know what I mean. It seems cleaner too.

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite @Obsolesce
                          last edited by

                          @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Fedora 25 Cinnamon Desktop:

                          I think I will stick with Gnome over Cinnamon on Korora. Not just because I'm afraid to break my currently working setup, but because it's actually starting to grow on me.

                          I can actually feel a productivity increase using my computer this way over the standard Windows-like Cinnamon layout.

                          I like how the "Windows key" on the keyboard shows all your open windows, easy access to other screens, and search. Also moving mouse to upper left hand corner does the same thing.

                          I don't know, it's more than just that though... if you know what I mean. It seems cleaner too.

                          Gnome and Unity is pretty much my comfort Desktops. The layout is clean and doesn't have that windows 7 mouse clicking needs.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce
                            last edited by Obsolesce

                            I think the majority of my issues are due to the issue the Bumblebee-Project addresses.

                            Fedora has a Bumblebee Wiki regarding this, which I will try out later (tonight hopefully) and post results.

                            I still would like to get things in working order, so I can edit my top posts of the whole procedure and end up with a working machine all around.

                            I can't get far enough with the Korora Cinnamon install to try this, so I will have to get everything going on Gnome desktop first. Then maybe I will try to figure out a way to switch to Cinnamon once I get the graphics crap straightened out.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce
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                              @JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                              @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                              When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                              @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                              When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                              here is what mine says.
                              0_1495482109794_upload-2d5ae5f3-52a7-48e8-8e0b-a36123f9baaf

                              Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.

                              Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.

                              I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.

                              I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!

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                              • dafyreD
                                dafyre @Obsolesce
                                last edited by

                                @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                                @JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                                @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                                When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                                @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                                When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                                here is what mine says.
                                0_1495482109794_upload-2d5ae5f3-52a7-48e8-8e0b-a36123f9baaf

                                Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.

                                Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.

                                I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.

                                I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!

                                If you have one of those NVIDIA Optimus GPUs in your laptop, you'll need the Bumblebee driver working, I do believe.

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                                • black3dynamiteB
                                  black3dynamite @Obsolesce
                                  last edited by

                                  @Tim_G By default Korora 25 Gnome is using Wayland and believe Korora 25 Cinnamon is still using xorg. Maybe that's why the Gnome version is working for you.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce @dafyre
                                    last edited by

                                    @dafyre said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                                    @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                                    @JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                                    @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                                    When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                                    @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                                    When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                                    here is what mine says.
                                    0_1495482109794_upload-2d5ae5f3-52a7-48e8-8e0b-a36123f9baaf

                                    Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.

                                    Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.

                                    I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.

                                    I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!

                                    If you have one of those NVIDIA Optimus GPUs in your laptop, you'll need the Bumblebee driver working, I do believe.

                                    That's what I thought too. But after it was installed, nothing changed. Even after I rebooted. Everything showed up the same as it did before I installed it. The more I did, it ended with my laptop not booting to the GUI anymore.

                                    Is it like this with laptops using high-end AMD graphics cards? Just NVidia?

                                    I really don't understand why things just won't work using the Linux drivers provided by NVidia. Why must you run around the world 4 times to get things working using this and that, if you're lucky?

                                    (note, Korora 25 Cinnamon works great on my Dell Latitude e6440... not a single issue whatsoever. This seems to be specific to high-end NVidia graphics cards)

                                    From the NVidia website:

                                    Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
                                    Ā 
                                    Version: 
                                    375.66 
                                    Release Date: 
                                    2017.5.4 
                                    Operating System: 
                                    Linux 64-bit 
                                    Language: 
                                    English (US) 
                                    File Size: 
                                    71.62 MB 
                                    

                                    I haven't yet just straight up tried that above driver from NVidia. I'll try that tonight. But I'm not hopeful, considering everywhere I look says I need this and that, and to not use the drivers provided by NVidia. Who knows!

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @black3dynamite
                                      last edited by Obsolesce

                                      @black3dynamite said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                                      @Tim_G By default Korora 25 Gnome is using Wayland and believe Korora 25 Cinnamon is still using xorg. Maybe that's why the Gnome version is working for you.

                                      I didn't know that. That make a little more sense.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @black3dynamite
                                        last edited by

                                        @black3dynamite said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                                        @Tim_G By default Korora 25 Gnome is using Wayland and believe Korora 25 Cinnamon is still using xorg. Maybe that's why the Gnome version is working for you.

                                        Oh that's interesting.

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                                        • dafyreD
                                          dafyre @Obsolesce
                                          last edited by

                                          @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                                          @dafyre said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                                          @Tim_G said in Project: Moving main laptop to Korora 25 Desktop:

                                          @JaredBusch said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                                          @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                                          When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                                          @Tim_G said in Korora 25: MacBookPro install: tips | tricks | info:

                                          When you look at system details, which graphics does it list in that window? Just curious... mine wasn't playing nicely.

                                          here is what mine says.
                                          0_1495482109794_upload-2d5ae5f3-52a7-48e8-8e0b-a36123f9baaf

                                          Mine shows like it does here. It lists Intel instead of the NVidia card in your photo.

                                          Things seem to be working fine when using Gnome on Korora 25. So I don't know if there's anything for me to do or not. I went through the whole Bumblebee dance, and the only thing that happened was I ended up not being able to log in. So reinstalled Korora again last night.

                                          I'm not sure how to test out the NVidia card to be sure all is working as it should, regardless of which graphics shows up in the "system info" window.

                                          I tried the tuxkartracer game (or whatever it's called) last night too, and that ran just fine. I'm not sure if it's safe to assume I don't need to do anything after a fresh install graphics-wise. Perhaps I should leave it alone. I'm starting to get tired of reloading it multiple times every night!

                                          If you have one of those NVIDIA Optimus GPUs in your laptop, you'll need the Bumblebee driver working, I do believe.

                                          That's what I thought too. But after it was installed, nothing changed. Even after I rebooted. Everything showed up the same as it did before I installed it. The more I did, it ended with my laptop not booting to the GUI anymore.

                                          Is it like this with laptops using high-end AMD graphics cards? Just NVidia?

                                          I really don't understand why things just won't work using the Linux drivers provided by NVidia. Why must you run around the world 4 times to get things working using this and that, if you're lucky?

                                          (note, Korora 25 Cinnamon works great on my Dell Latitude e6440... not a single issue whatsoever. This seems to be specific to high-end NVidia graphics cards)

                                          From the NVidia website:

                                          Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
                                          Ā 
                                          Version: 
                                          375.66 
                                          Release Date: 
                                          2017.5.4 
                                          Operating System: 
                                          Linux 64-bit 
                                          Language: 
                                          English (US) 
                                          File Size: 
                                          71.62 MB 
                                          

                                          I haven't yet just straight up tried that above driver from NVidia. I'll try that tonight. But I'm not hopeful, considering everywhere I look says I need this and that, and to not use the drivers provided by NVidia. Who knows!

                                          Yeah, that will break it, lol.

                                          In order to get things to run with the NVIDIA chip, you can prefix the commands with umm...

                                          optirun, I think.... IE: to run Chrome with the NVIDIA drivers, it'd be :

                                          optirun /usr/bin/google-chrome

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce
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                                            I got Korora 25 Gnome reinstalled and fully updated.

                                            I don't think I'm going to mess with any of the graphics stuff. It's working just fine. If there's any games I want to play, and I can't get it to use the nVidia card on Linux, I'll reboot and fire up Win10.

                                            It looks like Google Chrome runs the best on here, much better and smoother than Firefox does.

                                            Now that I know how to keep Korora stable, and have a stable web browser I can use efficiently, I'll let things simmer a few days and get the original intent of this thread reorganized and written.

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