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    Take it or Fight It?

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    • Minion QueenM
      Minion Queen
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      I did have to read the OP more than once cause HUH????

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
        last edited by DustinB3403

        Anyone else have input on this for Kayere (Meagan)?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          i have been offered a month and a halfs pay to leave quietly in a month.

          what does this mean? That she's been offered a severance if she quits?
          Or she's been offered some free money if she takes maternity leave in one month?

          still leaves me 4 or 5 months without pay that i would have had if my boss wasnt harrassing me

          This sounds like they are trying to make her quit. Isnt' that illegal?

          Is this a case where she won't be working in either case come 1 month from now? If that's the case, I'd say she keep working and wait to get fired - then she'll be jobless and sue them for harassment and possible maternity issues.

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          • DanpD
            Danp
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            Sounds to me like there are several different issues (harrassment, discrimination) here. I would not quit or take their offer. I would hire an attorney and fight for an acceptable settlement.

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            • Minion QueenM
              Minion Queen
              last edited by

              I have a unique perspective here since I have actually worked while pregnant etc. TALK TO A LAYWER!! They are trying to sweep something that I hope you have documented in writing and sweep it under the rug.

              The maternity leave thing yeah they are threatening to do something they can't do... last minute to try and get rid of you. The whole entire things stinks and needs so legal intervention.

              It can't hurt to just talk to a lawyer and see if there is anything they can do to help you.

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse
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                I haven't read it yet, But Some companies do allow for the spouse - husband - to take maternity leave as well.. Limited,.. but it does happen.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403
                  last edited by

                  Yeah, my stance on this is, "I'm pregnant and being harassed at work". Document the incidents in email, work till your due, take your legal maternity leave and sue them for failing to protect you and stop the harassment.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @gjacobse
                    last edited by

                    @gjacobse said in Take it or Fight It?:

                    I haven't read it yet, But Some companies do allow for the spouse - husband - to take maternity leave as well.. Limited,.. but it does happen.

                    In NY this is a legal right. A few other states as well. It's Family Maternity leave or something like that. 12 weeks is provided legally.

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                    • DustinB3403D
                      DustinB3403
                      last edited by DustinB3403

                      It's called Family-Leave policy and it doesn't apply to just pregnancy.

                      But family health, adoption etc.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender
                        last edited by

                        it sounds like she doesn't want to take the max amount of time for maternity leave, she only wants to take what she needs... so that's not the important part from what I see.

                        Perhaps they are trying to get her to quit before she goes on leave, so they can just hire someone else who doesn't have kids to worry about.

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                        • DanpD
                          Danp
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                          Depending on company size, she may be covered by FMLA.

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403
                            last edited by

                            Well she is already covered under employee protection laws and maternity laws.

                            If in fact the company is trying to get her to quit through inaction on their part they are liable for lost wages, maternity insurance and coverage, and existing benefits. Of which they would be forced to pay in any court.

                            She seems like she'd be content to continue working at her existing job, but she wants the harassment to stop.

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                            • DanpD
                              Danp @DustinB3403
                              last edited by

                              @DustinB3403 Chances are that they will try to find a way to get rid of her. Reminds me of the movie Disclosure.

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                              • BRRABillB
                                BRRABill
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                                It can be very tough to prove stuff unless there is a real smoking gun.

                                I'd maybe counter and threaten going to a lawyer. It will probably cost them way more, but employers are stubborn.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender
                                  last edited by

                                  If she has no copies of the complaints today, then she needs to visit HR again, make another complaint, and demand a copy of the filed complaint. That should be more than enough documentation. At the same time, she can request copies of the previous complaints as well, but they may choose not to accept that.

                                  If they refuse to give a copy of the complaint, send an email to HR confirming the same stuff as listed in the complaint, then print it off and and take it home.

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                                  • BRRABillB
                                    BRRABill
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                                    I'd be surprised if HR would document something such as "this person is harassing our employee".

                                    It wouldn't be acceptable.

                                    "Don keeps grabbing Dolores in the naughty bits. We've told him to stop, but he won't. Not sure what else we can do." Signed, HR

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                      last edited by

                                      @Dashrender said in Take it or Fight It?:

                                      This sounds like they are trying to make her quit. Isnt' that illegal?

                                      Paying someone to quit is perfectly legal. People do it every day. They don't sound like they are forcing her, they are trying to avoid a legal issue because of a bad boss that they clearly don't want to deal with firing.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
                                        last edited by

                                        @BRRABill said in Take it or Fight It?:

                                        I'd be surprised if HR would document something such as "this person is harassing our employee".

                                        It wouldn't be acceptable.

                                        "Don keeps grabbing Dolores in the naughty bits. We've told him to stop, but he won't. Not sure what else we can do." Signed, HR

                                        Defining harassing is the key point here. Unless there is more info that I didn't see, we can't assume sexual assault.

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                                        • BRRABillB
                                          BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Take it or Fight It?:

                                          @BRRABill said in Take it or Fight It?:

                                          I'd be surprised if HR would document something such as "this person is harassing our employee".

                                          It wouldn't be acceptable.

                                          "Don keeps grabbing Dolores in the naughty bits. We've told him to stop, but he won't. Not sure what else we can do." Signed, HR

                                          Defining harassing is the key point here. Unless there is more info that I didn't see, we can't assume sexual assault.

                                          Well, it's either an illegal harassment, or just an annoyance. Not going to get very far suing over someone just being annoying.

                                          If they are looking into a lawyer, I would assume illegal harassment, Though people often, as I said, do not understand what is required to bring about a case for that kind of harassment.

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                                          • DustinB3403D
                                            DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                                            last edited by DustinB3403

                                            @BRRABill Actually you could, if the annoyance became harassment.

                                            Of course proving it is harassment is the difficult part. If it's sexual advances on this person that are unwanted and she's made these complaints to HR to address the issue. It's a pretty simple case.

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