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    Take it or Fight It?

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    • DanpD
      Danp
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      Depending on company size, she may be covered by FMLA.

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      • DustinB3403D
        DustinB3403
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        Well she is already covered under employee protection laws and maternity laws.

        If in fact the company is trying to get her to quit through inaction on their part they are liable for lost wages, maternity insurance and coverage, and existing benefits. Of which they would be forced to pay in any court.

        She seems like she'd be content to continue working at her existing job, but she wants the harassment to stop.

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        • DanpD
          Danp @DustinB3403
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          @DustinB3403 Chances are that they will try to find a way to get rid of her. Reminds me of the movie Disclosure.

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          • BRRABillB
            BRRABill
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            It can be very tough to prove stuff unless there is a real smoking gun.

            I'd maybe counter and threaten going to a lawyer. It will probably cost them way more, but employers are stubborn.

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            • DashrenderD
              Dashrender
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              If she has no copies of the complaints today, then she needs to visit HR again, make another complaint, and demand a copy of the filed complaint. That should be more than enough documentation. At the same time, she can request copies of the previous complaints as well, but they may choose not to accept that.

              If they refuse to give a copy of the complaint, send an email to HR confirming the same stuff as listed in the complaint, then print it off and and take it home.

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              • BRRABillB
                BRRABill
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                I'd be surprised if HR would document something such as "this person is harassing our employee".

                It wouldn't be acceptable.

                "Don keeps grabbing Dolores in the naughty bits. We've told him to stop, but he won't. Not sure what else we can do." Signed, HR

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                  @Dashrender said in Take it or Fight It?:

                  This sounds like they are trying to make her quit. Isnt' that illegal?

                  Paying someone to quit is perfectly legal. People do it every day. They don't sound like they are forcing her, they are trying to avoid a legal issue because of a bad boss that they clearly don't want to deal with firing.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                    @BRRABill said in Take it or Fight It?:

                    I'd be surprised if HR would document something such as "this person is harassing our employee".

                    It wouldn't be acceptable.

                    "Don keeps grabbing Dolores in the naughty bits. We've told him to stop, but he won't. Not sure what else we can do." Signed, HR

                    Defining harassing is the key point here. Unless there is more info that I didn't see, we can't assume sexual assault.

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                    • BRRABillB
                      BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Take it or Fight It?:

                      @BRRABill said in Take it or Fight It?:

                      I'd be surprised if HR would document something such as "this person is harassing our employee".

                      It wouldn't be acceptable.

                      "Don keeps grabbing Dolores in the naughty bits. We've told him to stop, but he won't. Not sure what else we can do." Signed, HR

                      Defining harassing is the key point here. Unless there is more info that I didn't see, we can't assume sexual assault.

                      Well, it's either an illegal harassment, or just an annoyance. Not going to get very far suing over someone just being annoying.

                      If they are looking into a lawyer, I would assume illegal harassment, Though people often, as I said, do not understand what is required to bring about a case for that kind of harassment.

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                      • DustinB3403D
                        DustinB3403 @BRRABill
                        last edited by DustinB3403

                        @BRRABill Actually you could, if the annoyance became harassment.

                        Of course proving it is harassment is the difficult part. If it's sexual advances on this person that are unwanted and she's made these complaints to HR to address the issue. It's a pretty simple case.

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                        • IRJI
                          IRJ
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                          1. Start looking for a new job immediately. You are 5 months pregnant not 8.5 months. So I wouldn't say that employers wouldn't hire you. I am sure you will probably get discriminated against since you are pregnant, but I don't believe that is going to be the case with every employer. Some may actually feel for your situation (certainly women and probably some men).

                          2. I would continue negotiating the leave agreement. If you can get 2-3 months pay, I would leave and still continue the job search. In Florida, men and women can both take up to 12 unpaid weeks. So in Florida, you are unpaid during your leave anyway. I am not sure if that is the same as where you are.

                          3. Everyone is telling you to go the lawyer route, but you could spend alot of $$$ and effort and come up with a big goose egg. I would maybe see if the lawyer could do a conference call at a low rate with you and your employer. Then your lawyer could remind them of the potential consequences and you may be able to squeeze more out of them for very little effort and costs on your end.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                            @IRJ said in Take it or Fight It?:

                            1. Start looking for a new job immediately. You are 5 months pregnant not 8.5 months. So I wouldn't say that employers wouldn't hire you. I am sure you will probably get discriminated against since you are pregnant, but I don't believe that is going to be the case with every employer. Some may actually feel for your situation (certainly women and probably some men).

                            And it is illegal for the potential employer to even record that information or pass it along.

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