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    • wirestyle22W
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      Nice!

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      • JaredBuschJ
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        They had a a live Q&A a bit ago.

        Youtube Video

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        • IRJI
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          I believe the end users will lose on this. A month and a half ago, the main founder leaves the company then becomes CEO of this new company. Sounds like a reboot to me with an agenda to increase profits. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but the end users will pay out of pocket for this. One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

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          • wirestyle22W
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            @IRJ I was thinking the same

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @IRJ
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              @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

              I believe the end users will lose on this. A month and a half ago, the main founder leaves the company then becomes CEO of this new company. Sounds like a reboot to me with an agenda to increase profits. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but the end users will pay out of pocket for this. One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

              In the Q&A he says he is doing this specifically because ownCloud was no longer being opensource friendly. He also says he has long been an open source supporter for years.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

                I thought that it was the opposite. In his post about why he left it was because the open source community was not getting the necessary respect.

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                • IRJI
                  IRJ @JaredBusch
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                  @JaredBusch said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                  @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                  I believe the end users will lose on this. A month and a half ago, the main founder leaves the company then becomes CEO of this new company. Sounds like a reboot to me with an agenda to increase profits. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but the end users will pay out of pocket for this. One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

                  In the Q&A he says he is doing this specifically because ownCloud was no longer being opensource friendly. He also says he has long been an open source supporter for years.

                  What does your gut tell you?

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                    @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                    What does your gut tell you?

                    That forking for profit doesn't really work.

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                    • coliverC
                      coliver @IRJ
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                      @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                      @JaredBusch said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                      @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                      I believe the end users will lose on this. A month and a half ago, the main founder leaves the company then becomes CEO of this new company. Sounds like a reboot to me with an agenda to increase profits. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but the end users will pay out of pocket for this. One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

                      In the Q&A he says he is doing this specifically because ownCloud was no longer being opensource friendly. He also says he has long been an open source supporter for years.

                      What does your gut tell you?

                      I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. He's worked in several open source communities in the past and has been funding/contributing to them all along.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @IRJ
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                        @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                        @JaredBusch said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                        @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                        I believe the end users will lose on this. A month and a half ago, the main founder leaves the company then becomes CEO of this new company. Sounds like a reboot to me with an agenda to increase profits. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but the end users will pay out of pocket for this. One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

                        In the Q&A he says he is doing this specifically because ownCloud was no longer being opensource friendly. He also says he has long been an open source supporter for years.

                        What does your gut tell you?

                        That he wants to make money selling a wonder box (aka appliance) and make money with support.

                        But that they fully intend that there will be a single solid Nextcloud product.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
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                          @IRJ They talk about it at 26:00 in the Q&A

                          Youtube Video – [26:00..]

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                          • IRJI
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                            Maybe you guys are right, but time will tell.

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                            • coliverC
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                              https://karlitschek.de/2016/06/nextcloud/

                              Interesting blog post about what he plans for the future.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
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                                The official statement from ownCloud.

                                https://owncloud.com/owncloud-statement-concerning-formation-nextcloud-frank-karlitschek/

                                Today’s announcement by our former colleague Frank Karlitschek, that he intends to launch a competitive product to ownCloud into the market using recently poached developers, has both surprised us and – admittedly – disappointed us. In the past, Frank has made a wealth of contributions to the development of the ownCloud Community Edition. With today’s announcement, he is no longer related to the ownCloud project and has started a competing community.
                                <snip middle>
                                Unfortunately, the announcement has consequences for ownCloud, Inc. based in Lexington, MA. Our main lenders in the US have cancelled our credit. Following American law, we are forced to close the doors of ownCloud, Inc. with immediate effect and terminate the contracts of 8 employees. The ownCloud GmbH is not directly affected by this and the growth of the ownCloud Foundation will remain a key priority.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
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                                  Wow, so ownCloud is just... gone. That was incredibly fast.

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                                    Wow, so ownCloud is just... gone. That was incredibly fast.

                                    That is not what it says.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
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                                      @JaredBusch said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                                      Wow, so ownCloud is just... gone. That was incredibly fast.

                                      That is not what it says.

                                      It said that ownCloud, Inc. (the US company) is closing its doors. ownCloud Germany will remain.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                                        @JaredBusch said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                                        Wow, so ownCloud is just... gone. That was incredibly fast.

                                        That is not what it says.

                                        It said that ownCloud, Inc. (the US company) is closing its doors. ownCloud Germany will remain.

                                        Correct. That does not mean

                                        @scottalanmiller said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                                        Wow, so ownCloud is just... gone. That was incredibly fast.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
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                                          What does the second company do?

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                                            What does the second company do?

                                            https://owncloud.com/about

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