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    HUGE news: Nextcloud future of ownCloud!

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    • KellyK
      Kelly
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      @jospoortvliet do you have a rough roadmap for when Nextcloud will be released?

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      • coliverC
        coliver @Kelly
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        @Kelly said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

        @jospoortvliet do you have a rough roadmap for when Nextcloud will be released?

        From the site it looks like early July.

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        • KellyK
          Kelly @coliver
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          @coliver said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

          @Kelly said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

          @jospoortvliet do you have a rough roadmap for when Nextcloud will be released?

          From the site it looks like early July.

          Reading the site?!?! Isn't that cheating?

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          • wirestyle22W
            wirestyle22
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            Nice!

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            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch
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              They had a a live Q&A a bit ago.

              Youtube Video

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              • IRJI
                IRJ
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                I believe the end users will lose on this. A month and a half ago, the main founder leaves the company then becomes CEO of this new company. Sounds like a reboot to me with an agenda to increase profits. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but the end users will pay out of pocket for this. One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22
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                  @IRJ I was thinking the same

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @IRJ
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                    @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                    I believe the end users will lose on this. A month and a half ago, the main founder leaves the company then becomes CEO of this new company. Sounds like a reboot to me with an agenda to increase profits. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but the end users will pay out of pocket for this. One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

                    In the Q&A he says he is doing this specifically because ownCloud was no longer being opensource friendly. He also says he has long been an open source supporter for years.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                      @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                      One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

                      I thought that it was the opposite. In his post about why he left it was because the open source community was not getting the necessary respect.

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ @JaredBusch
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                        @JaredBusch said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                        @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                        I believe the end users will lose on this. A month and a half ago, the main founder leaves the company then becomes CEO of this new company. Sounds like a reboot to me with an agenda to increase profits. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but the end users will pay out of pocket for this. One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

                        In the Q&A he says he is doing this specifically because ownCloud was no longer being opensource friendly. He also says he has long been an open source supporter for years.

                        What does your gut tell you?

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @IRJ
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                          @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                          What does your gut tell you?

                          That forking for profit doesn't really work.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @IRJ
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                            @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                            @JaredBusch said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                            @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                            I believe the end users will lose on this. A month and a half ago, the main founder leaves the company then becomes CEO of this new company. Sounds like a reboot to me with an agenda to increase profits. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but the end users will pay out of pocket for this. One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

                            In the Q&A he says he is doing this specifically because ownCloud was no longer being opensource friendly. He also says he has long been an open source supporter for years.

                            What does your gut tell you?

                            I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. He's worked in several open source communities in the past and has been funding/contributing to them all along.

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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @IRJ
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                              @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                              @JaredBusch said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                              @IRJ said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                              I believe the end users will lose on this. A month and a half ago, the main founder leaves the company then becomes CEO of this new company. Sounds like a reboot to me with an agenda to increase profits. Not that there is anything wrong with it, but the end users will pay out of pocket for this. One of the things Frank seemed to complain about was the opensource community .

                              In the Q&A he says he is doing this specifically because ownCloud was no longer being opensource friendly. He also says he has long been an open source supporter for years.

                              What does your gut tell you?

                              That he wants to make money selling a wonder box (aka appliance) and make money with support.

                              But that they fully intend that there will be a single solid Nextcloud product.

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                              • JaredBuschJ
                                JaredBusch
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                                @IRJ They talk about it at 26:00 in the Q&A

                                Youtube Video – [26:00..]

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ
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                                  Maybe you guys are right, but time will tell.

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                                  • coliverC
                                    coliver
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                                    https://karlitschek.de/2016/06/nextcloud/

                                    Interesting blog post about what he plans for the future.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      The official statement from ownCloud.

                                      https://owncloud.com/owncloud-statement-concerning-formation-nextcloud-frank-karlitschek/

                                      Today’s announcement by our former colleague Frank Karlitschek, that he intends to launch a competitive product to ownCloud into the market using recently poached developers, has both surprised us and – admittedly – disappointed us. In the past, Frank has made a wealth of contributions to the development of the ownCloud Community Edition. With today’s announcement, he is no longer related to the ownCloud project and has started a competing community.
                                      <snip middle>
                                      Unfortunately, the announcement has consequences for ownCloud, Inc. based in Lexington, MA. Our main lenders in the US have cancelled our credit. Following American law, we are forced to close the doors of ownCloud, Inc. with immediate effect and terminate the contracts of 8 employees. The ownCloud GmbH is not directly affected by this and the growth of the ownCloud Foundation will remain a key priority.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller
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                                        Wow, so ownCloud is just... gone. That was incredibly fast.

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                                          Wow, so ownCloud is just... gone. That was incredibly fast.

                                          That is not what it says.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                            @JaredBusch said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in HUGE news: Nextcloud replacing ownCloud!:

                                            Wow, so ownCloud is just... gone. That was incredibly fast.

                                            That is not what it says.

                                            It said that ownCloud, Inc. (the US company) is closing its doors. ownCloud Germany will remain.

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