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    Retirement - What services does your country provide?

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    • wirestyle22W
      wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said:

      @wirestyle22 said:

      They drop us off on an island with a gun and one bullet

      Why wait for retirement?
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Royale_(film)

      @IMDB said:

      42 9th graders are sent to a deserted island. They are given a map, food, and various weapons. An explosive collar is fitted around their neck. If they break a rule, the collar explodes. Their mission: kill each other and be the last one standing. The last survivor is allowed to leave the island. If there is more than one survivor, the collars explode and kill them all.

      battle-royale--400x225.jpg

      Battle Royale is an amazing film ❤

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      • DashrenderD
        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said:

        US: Basically nothing.

        SS isn't nothing - sure, not enough to live on, but it's not nothing.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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          @Dashrender said:

          @scottalanmiller said:

          US: Basically nothing.

          SS isn't nothing - sure, not enough to live on, but it's not nothing.

          True. But it's closer to nothing 🙂

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          • J
            Jason Banned
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            Hunger Games might be provided if Donald Trump get's in office.

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            • BRRABillB
              BRRABill @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              True. But it's closer to nothing 🙂

              it pays the rent. As long as the senior only has rent as an expense, they'll be juuuuuuuuuuuuust fine.

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              • MattSpellerM
                MattSpeller
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                Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

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                • wirestyle22W
                  wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                  last edited by

                  @MattSpeller said:

                  Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                  my second set of arms are crossed and I'm shaking my head

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                  • wirestyle22W
                    wirestyle22 @Jason
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                    @Jason said:

                    Hunger Games might be provided if Donald Trump get's in office.

                    Hope my district wins

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @MattSpeller
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                      @MattSpeller said:

                      Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                      Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

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                      • MattSpellerM
                        MattSpeller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said:

                        @MattSpeller said:

                        Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                        Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

                        DBPP baby

                        Defined benefit pension plan. 75% of your last 3 years of pay averaged until you croak.

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                          Jason Banned @Dashrender
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                          @Dashrender said:

                          @MattSpeller said:

                          Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                          Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

                          I have a government 457 from past jobs. I don't ever count on getting the money from it.. considering it is the government after all.

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                          • wirestyle22W
                            wirestyle22 @MattSpeller
                            last edited by wirestyle22

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            @Dashrender said:

                            @MattSpeller said:

                            Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                            Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

                            DBPP baby

                            Defined benefit pension plan. 75% of your last 3 years of pay averaged until you croak.

                            The projected gains (if you see them that way) of a plan like that are overshadowed by smart mutual fund management imho

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                              @MattSpeller said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              @MattSpeller said:

                              Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                              Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

                              DBPP baby

                              Defined benefit pension plan. 75% of your last 3 years of pay averaged until you croak.

                              That REALLY screws people who try to do any work towards the end. That is an "early retirement system" for sure.

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                              • MattSpellerM
                                MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                @Dashrender said:

                                @MattSpeller said:

                                Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                                Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

                                DBPP baby

                                Defined benefit pension plan. 75% of your last 3 years of pay averaged until you croak.

                                That REALLY screws people who try to do any work towards the end. That is an "early retirement system" for sure.

                                It's so that you can go half time to train your replacement in the last months / year and take no hit on your pension

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @scottalanmiller said:

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  @MattSpeller said:

                                  Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                                  Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

                                  DBPP baby

                                  Defined benefit pension plan. 75% of your last 3 years of pay averaged until you croak.

                                  That REALLY screws people who try to do any work towards the end. That is an "early retirement system" for sure.

                                  It's so that you can go half time to train your replacement in the last months / year and take no hit on your pension

                                  How does it do that? If you take half time you would lower your average. It would make me never do half time or take any downgrade in pay.

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                                  • MattSpellerM
                                    MattSpeller @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    @Dashrender said:

                                    @MattSpeller said:

                                    Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                                    Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

                                    DBPP baby

                                    Defined benefit pension plan. 75% of your last 3 years of pay averaged until you croak.

                                    That REALLY screws people who try to do any work towards the end. That is an "early retirement system" for sure.

                                    It's so that you can go half time to train your replacement in the last months / year and take no hit on your pension

                                    How does it do that? If you take half time you would lower your average. It would make me never do half time or take any downgrade in pay.

                                    Most are just your last year. With the average if you have any health issues or want to ease into it there's less effect on your pension.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @MattSpeller
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                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @scottalanmiller said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      @Dashrender said:

                                      @MattSpeller said:

                                      Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                                      Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

                                      DBPP baby

                                      Defined benefit pension plan. 75% of your last 3 years of pay averaged until you croak.

                                      That REALLY screws people who try to do any work towards the end. That is an "early retirement system" for sure.

                                      It's so that you can go half time to train your replacement in the last months / year and take no hit on your pension

                                      How does it do that? If you take half time you would lower your average. It would make me never do half time or take any downgrade in pay.

                                      Most are just your last year. With the average if you have any health issues or want to ease into it there's less effect on your pension.

                                      Less than what? I've never heard of any plan that would have more of an effect on it.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        @Dashrender said:

                                        @MattSpeller said:

                                        Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                                        Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

                                        DBPP baby

                                        Defined benefit pension plan. 75% of your last 3 years of pay averaged until you croak.

                                        That REALLY screws people who try to do any work towards the end. That is an "early retirement system" for sure.

                                        How is this a screw though? Because what? you assume people in their last few years normally go part time instead of staying full time until retirement?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                                          last edited by

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          @Dashrender said:

                                          @MattSpeller said:

                                          Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                                          Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

                                          DBPP baby

                                          Defined benefit pension plan. 75% of your last 3 years of pay averaged until you croak.

                                          That REALLY screws people who try to do any work towards the end. That is an "early retirement system" for sure.

                                          How is this a screw though? Because what? you assume people in their last few years normally go part time instead of staying full time until retirement?

                                          That's what he stated. He specifically said that people in their last few years were expected to go part time. This would totally hose them.

                                          Lots of people slow down before totally retiring. Think about every person working at Walmart as a greeter. They made way more twenty years ago, I guarantee.

                                          Lots of people from high demand fields make the most in their 40s and 50s, not 60s or 70s.

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @MattSpeller
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                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            @MattSpeller said:

                                            Solid pensions from both the company I work at and the one prior.

                                            Unless you work for the government, that's not the same - and even if you do, that's not what I'm really going for... What you're talking about is employer benefits, even if the employer is the gov't.

                                            DBPP baby

                                            Defined benefit pension plan. 75% of your last 3 years of pay averaged until you croak.

                                            Actually I hate these types of systems, they allow employees to screw the employer/government.

                                            The firefighters in Omaha have a plan like this - it's the last 6 years instead of three. So they just decide early when they plan to retire.. then they milk the damned clock for all they can possibly get, typically working 1.4 - 1.7 times normal driving their retirement numbers high.

                                            Of course the city (or whomever is in charge of fire fighter schedules) is also to blame for this shit, because they should simply not allow those employees to have more than normal hours.

                                            What's worse... Most Firefighters around here retire at 45-50 years old...

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