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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Deleted74295
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      @Breffni-Potter said:

      Just curious, why are you still on Azure if you've had soooo many reliability issues?

      Only reason we were ever one it, one rogue admin who would sneak stuff there. Almost nothing is there that went through proper review.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Moving quite a few things to Digital Ocean and Linux. Many of the same things used to sneak things onto Azure were also used to sneak workloads onto Windows. Unbelievable number of problems caused by this process.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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          @aaronstuder said:

          I know a handful of people that use it, and there very happy with it.

          Are they people who have carefully considered the alternatives? We know a lot of people who have used it and the issue levels are pretty high, as are the costs. Even if it worked really well, which is consistently does not, the cost is not that good. Not horrible, but not that good.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Alex Sage
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            @aaronstuder said:

            @BRRABill Azure.

            Dropbox for business is mega expensive.

            As is Azure 🙂

            We have some workloads having their cost cut by 95% moving off!

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            • FATeknollogeeF
              FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said:

              As is Azure 🙂

              We have some workloads having their cost cut by 95% moving off!

              Can you share those details?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                @FATeknollogee said:

                Can you share those details?

                The combination of moving from Azure to DO and from Windows to Linux has allowed some workloads to go from over $100/mo to $5/mo! We haven't had a chance to test performance yet outside of "it was adequate and it remains adequate" but my guess is that we will actually see an improvement.

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                • stacksofplatesS
                  stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @FATeknollogee said:

                  Can you share those details?

                  The combination of moving from Azure to DO and from Windows to Linux has allowed some workloads to go from over $100/mo to $5/mo! We haven't had a chance to test performance yet outside of "it was adequate and it remains adequate" but my guess is that we will actually see an improvement.

                  Why running on Windows on Azure? I thought they had some Linux images? (I've never used it but thought I heard that somewhere)

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                    @johnhooks said:

                    Why running on Windows on Azure? I thought they had some Linux images? (I've never used it but thought I heard that somewhere)

                    Yeah, but why use that either? The only reason I would look to Azure is for a Windows dominated service, and that was the excuse used to get the services there. This ignored the fact that Windows made the service work and Azure made the hosting worse. Together, it was pretty awful.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      Moving quite a few things to Digital Ocean and Linux.

                      Digital Ocean is the cloud service & Linux is the o/s?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                        @FATeknollogee said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        Moving quite a few things to Digital Ocean and Linux.

                        Digital Ocean is the cloud service & Linux is the o/s?

                        Correct. Nearly everything we run is CentOS 7 Linux these days. And we use a mix of Rackspace and Digital Ocean for our primary cloud providers. We use Vultr just a little for special cases. And while we like AWS a lot, they don't tend to work well for our needs.

                        Azure we use, again, for special purposes but working to reduce that as much as possible. It's a very rare workload that works well there and we are finding that sweet spot to be getting smaller and smaller.

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee
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                          I see that ownCloud is available on DO.

                          Anyone using it hosted on DO?

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                            @FATeknollogee said:

                            I see that ownCloud is available on DO.

                            It's available anywhere, just install it 🙂 DO just happens to make a handy installer for it, but it uses Ubuntu 14.04, I believe, which I am not going to touch. I would do my own install of ownCloud there (or anywhere.) Those prebuilt systems are find for playing with an app that you have never seen before, but are really not okay for production usage. If you can't build it yourself you can't reliably admin the box, especially once updates are needed!

                            ownCloud specifically is far better on Vultr than DO because of Vultr's storage oriented large capacity SATA options.

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                            • stacksofplatesS
                              stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
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                              @scottalanmiller

                              but it uses Ubuntu 14.04, I believe, which I am not going to touch

                              You say from your 14.04 based Mint laptop 😛

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @stacksofplates
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                                @johnhooks said:

                                @scottalanmiller

                                but it uses Ubuntu 14.04, I believe, which I am not going to touch

                                You say from your 14.04 based Mint laptop 😛

                                I know, I hate that they decided to do that.

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