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      adam.ierymenko @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

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        stacksofplates @adam.ierymenko
        last edited by stacksofplates

        @adam.ierymenko said:

        @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

        It works great on mine. I use it with my FreePBX and it works really well. My Nexus 5 is probably the slowest part of the whole thing.

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          JaredBusch @adam.ierymenko
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          @adam.ierymenko said:

          @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

          Never said that ZT would not work. The issue is the endpoints on the other end.

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          • DashrenderD
            Dashrender @adam.ierymenko
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            @adam.ierymenko said:

            . No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

            Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?

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              scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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              @Dashrender said:

              Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?

              No, security is the main reason. NAT traversal is easy (ish) to deal with.

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                FATeknollogee @adam.ierymenko
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                @adam.ierymenko said:

                @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                How are they doing this?
                I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

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                  adam.ierymenko @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller I disagree about NAT traversal being easy. It isn't too bad in, say, 90% of cases, but there's a long tail of awful edge cases and bad NATs that are terrible to deal with. We know this all too well.

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                    scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                    @FATeknollogee said:

                    @adam.ierymenko said:

                    @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                    How are they doing this?
                    I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                    Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

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                    • FATeknollogeeF
                      FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @FATeknollogee said:

                      @adam.ierymenko said:

                      @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                      How are they doing this?
                      I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                      Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                      How would you deal with remote handsets?

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        @FATeknollogee said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @FATeknollogee said:

                        @adam.ierymenko said:

                        @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                        How are they doing this?
                        I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                        Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                        How would you deal with remote handsets?

                        You'd have to use a zt gateway.

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                          @FATeknollogee said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @FATeknollogee said:

                          @adam.ierymenko said:

                          @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                          How are they doing this?
                          I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                          Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                          How would you deal with remote handsets?

                          ZT goes on every node. Same as with more traditional VPN technologies. If you use OpenVPN, every handset needs OpenVPN on it, too.

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                          • FATeknollogeeF
                            FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
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                            @Dashrender said:

                            zt gateway

                            Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @FATeknollogee said:

                              @Dashrender said:

                              zt gateway

                              Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?

                              No, you would need them behind a gateway.

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
                                I looked on the ZT site

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                                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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                                  @FATeknollogee said:

                                  What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
                                  I looked on the ZT site

                                  ZT has mentioned them a few times. ZT supports a gateway function so that you can have a "LAN" behind a gateway without needing ZT installed to each device.

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                                    stacksofplates
                                    last edited by stacksofplates

                                    So I downloaded VyOS and was able to install ZT on it. However I can't get it on my EdgeRouter as I have no other MIPS devices to compile on (I can't install make on the EdgeRouter) and my cross compilation skills do not exist.

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                                      scottalanmiller
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                                      I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

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                                        stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by stacksofplates

                                        @scottalanmiller said:

                                        I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

                                        Ya, MIPS64. So from what I saw on the ZT github, processor type doesn't matter really as long as it's 32 or 64 bit, but you still need to be able to compile on it.........................Suck.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Yup, sounds like a MIPS development board is in order!

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch
                                            last edited by JaredBusch

                                            The EdgeMax line makes use of Debian Wheezy Not sure what version. Haven't followed that in a while.

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