ML
    • Recent
    • Categories
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Groups
    • Register
    • Login

    If LAN is legacy, what is the UN-legacy...?

    IT Discussion
    13
    188
    82.4k
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
      last edited by

      No, not on the iPhone, I'll give it a fresh try, thanks.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • dafyreD
        dafyre @JaredBusch
        last edited by

        @JaredBusch said:

        Except most phones can already handle OpenVPN natively. ZT would be nice but you have to figure out how to build it into a phone. or Phone App to make it useful.

        Are you talking about Android / IOS devices, or the desktop phones? There are already clients for Android devices. According to the Web Site, IOS clients are slated for release in "early 2016".

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • A
          adam.ierymenko @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

          stacksofplatesS JaredBuschJ DashrenderD FATeknollogeeF 4 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 1
          • stacksofplatesS
            stacksofplates @adam.ierymenko
            last edited by stacksofplates

            @adam.ierymenko said:

            @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

            It works great on mine. I use it with my FreePBX and it works really well. My Nexus 5 is probably the slowest part of the whole thing.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
            • JaredBuschJ
              JaredBusch @adam.ierymenko
              last edited by

              @adam.ierymenko said:

              @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

              Never said that ZT would not work. The issue is the endpoints on the other end.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • DashrenderD
                Dashrender @adam.ierymenko
                last edited by

                @adam.ierymenko said:

                . No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?

                scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                  last edited by

                  @Dashrender said:

                  Is that it? Is NAT traversal why you would want to run softphones over ZT instead of just connecting them directly to the internet?

                  No, security is the main reason. NAT traversal is easy (ish) to deal with.

                  A 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • FATeknollogeeF
                    FATeknollogee @adam.ierymenko
                    last edited by

                    @adam.ierymenko said:

                    @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                    How are they doing this?
                    I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                    scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • A
                      adam.ierymenko @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller I disagree about NAT traversal being easy. It isn't too bad in, say, 90% of cases, but there's a long tail of awful edge cases and bad NATs that are terrible to deal with. We know this all too well.

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                        last edited by

                        @FATeknollogee said:

                        @adam.ierymenko said:

                        @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                        How are they doing this?
                        I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                        Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                        FATeknollogeeF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                          last edited by

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @FATeknollogee said:

                          @adam.ierymenko said:

                          @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                          How are they doing this?
                          I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                          Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                          How would you deal with remote handsets?

                          DashrenderD scottalanmillerS 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by

                            @FATeknollogee said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @FATeknollogee said:

                            @adam.ierymenko said:

                            @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                            How are they doing this?
                            I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                            Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                            How would you deal with remote handsets?

                            You'd have to use a zt gateway.

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                              last edited by

                              @FATeknollogee said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @FATeknollogee said:

                              @adam.ierymenko said:

                              @scottalanmiller People already run PBXes and VOIP over ZeroTier and say it works great. No need to worry about NAT-t, etc.

                              How are they doing this?
                              I'd like to try this with a www.3CX.com VOIP

                              Just install it and away you go! Nothing 3CX specific would be needed.

                              How would you deal with remote handsets?

                              ZT goes on every node. Same as with more traditional VPN technologies. If you use OpenVPN, every handset needs OpenVPN on it, too.

                              FATeknollogeeF 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @Dashrender said:

                                zt gateway

                                Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?

                                scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @FATeknollogee said:

                                  @Dashrender said:

                                  zt gateway

                                  Can you install ZT on Yealink or Grandstream handsets?

                                  No, you would need them behind a gateway.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • FATeknollogeeF
                                    FATeknollogee
                                    last edited by

                                    What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
                                    I looked on the ZT site

                                    scottalanmillerS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
                                      last edited by

                                      @FATeknollogee said:

                                      What is this gateway you guys are speaking of?
                                      I looked on the ZT site

                                      ZT has mentioned them a few times. ZT supports a gateway function so that you can have a "LAN" behind a gateway without needing ZT installed to each device.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • stacksofplatesS
                                        stacksofplates
                                        last edited by stacksofplates

                                        So I downloaded VyOS and was able to install ZT on it. However I can't get it on my EdgeRouter as I have no other MIPS devices to compile on (I can't install make on the EdgeRouter) and my cross compilation skills do not exist.

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 2
                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

                                          stacksofplatesS 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • stacksofplatesS
                                            stacksofplates @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by stacksofplates

                                            @scottalanmiller said:

                                            I never did the research to see that the EdgeRouter is a MIPS device.

                                            Ya, MIPS64. So from what I saw on the ZT github, processor type doesn't matter really as long as it's 32 or 64 bit, but you still need to be able to compile on it.........................Suck.

                                            travisdh1T 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • 1
                                            • 2
                                            • 6
                                            • 7
                                            • 8
                                            • 9
                                            • 10
                                            • 9 / 10
                                            • First post
                                              Last post