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    Wi-Fi recommendations for a brand new warehouse / production facility?

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.

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      • brianlittlejohnB
        brianlittlejohn
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        I'm assuming this is a metal building, with a metal skin on it. If so, you treat the L part of the building as completely separate because the walls will block most of the signal.

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        • coliverC
          coliver
          last edited by coliver

          On a slightly off topic note: https://www.ubnt.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-edu/ I wonder how loud these are and if they are loud enough for the environment. May solve some of the issues with the current speaker system. Nevermind looks like it only supports a mobile app not sure if you could use it from a different device.

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          • coliverC
            coliver @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said:

            One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.

            Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @brianlittlejohn
              last edited by

              @brianlittlejohn said:

              I'm assuming this is a metal building, with a metal skin on it. If so, you treat the L part of the building as completely separate because the walls will block most of the signal.

              Agreed.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @coliver
                last edited by

                @coliver said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.

                Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.

                Good point.

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                • JaredBuschJ
                  JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                  last edited by

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @coliver said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.

                  Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.

                  Good point.

                  You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.

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                  • coliverC
                    coliver @JaredBusch
                    last edited by coliver

                    @JaredBusch said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @coliver said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.

                    Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.

                    Good point.

                    You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.

                    Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @coliver said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.

                      Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.

                      Good point.

                      You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.

                      And do Unifi ones for total Unifi visibility.

                      Although I know that this site is doing a single stack switching design.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch
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                        @art_of_shred You have to do a site survey with temp powered equipment spread around if you want to be sure.

                        Also, you said that this is a warehouse. This means that you have to account for the fact that the wireless will be more degraded once it is filled with product. That is assuming floor to ceiling stock is in the warehouse.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @coliver
                          last edited by

                          @coliver said:

                          @JaredBusch said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          @coliver said:

                          @scottalanmiller said:

                          One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.

                          Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.

                          Good point.

                          You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.

                          Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.

                          Well, the 24v is an industry standard. Just not the standard we people outside of the WISP world are used to.

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                          • coliverC
                            coliver @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @JaredBusch said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @coliver said:

                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.

                            Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.

                            Good point.

                            You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.

                            Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.

                            Well, the 24v is an industry standard. Just not the standard we people outside of the WISP world are used to.

                            I wasn't aware of that generally when I hear PoE I think of the 802.3af/at standards.

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                              Jason Banned @coliver
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                              @coliver said:

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @JaredBusch said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              @coliver said:

                              @scottalanmiller said:

                              One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.

                              Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.

                              Good point.

                              You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.

                              Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.

                              Well, the 24v is an industry standard. Just not the standard we people outside of the WISP world are used to.

                              I wasn't aware of that generally when I hear PoE I think of the 802.3af/at standards.

                              It's passive PoE. Cameras and other devices use it too.
                              http://www.rfelements.com/products/integration-platforms/power-over-ethernet/overview-2/

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                                Jason Banned @coliver
                                last edited by Jason

                                @coliver said:

                                @JaredBusch said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @coliver said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                One thing that I like about the Ubiquities, and this would apply to most decent gear, is that you can do PoE making the cabling much easier to deal with.

                                Right, which is why I would go with the Pro models since they support industry standard PoE.

                                Good point.

                                You could also go with Ubiquiti switches.

                                Didn't know they could do the passive 24v that's good to know. Although then you are locking yourself down to one vendor which if you went an industry standard that wouldn't be an issue.

                                The Pro is great. I have the AC model at home which is POE+ which I have powered from a PoE+ switch.

                                Keep in mind in a normal factory you have lots of interference. Also don't place the WAPs as ceiling height in the facilities if they are say 20-40' high. Lower them on your support beams to around 8-10ft above ground. Otherwise your just wasting RF energy and more likely to get reflections off of the (likely) metal roof/deck.

                                Generally you want to put more and lower their RF output rather than put one and attempt cover a very large area.

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                                • DashrenderD
                                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said:

                                  @art_of_shred You have to do a site survey with temp powered equipment spread around if you want to be sure.

                                  Also, you said that this is a warehouse. This means that you have to account for the fact that the wireless will be more degraded once it is filled with product. That is assuming floor to ceiling stock is in the warehouse.

                                  Agreed, what will fill the space?

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                                  • art_of_shredA
                                    art_of_shred @JaredBusch
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                                    @JaredBusch Mostly open space, from what I understand. More production floor than product storage.

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                                    • art_of_shredA
                                      art_of_shred
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                                      So what does the range look like? Is it a half-sphere, if placed an a flat surface, or does it fan out in some particular pattern? I would assume the first, so if the range is 100', that's a 200' diameter zone that's 100' high at the central point. Given that 35' is the max height, you would lose very little spread by mounting it under the ceiling.

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                                      • DashrenderD
                                        Dashrender
                                        last edited by

                                        Yeah I was wondering about the "don't mount at the high ceilings" comment too.

                                        I'm no expert - why not mount there? Is ceiling reflection a problem with typical ceiling mounted APs?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @art_of_shred
                                          last edited by

                                          @art_of_shred said:

                                          So what does the range look like? Is it a half-sphere, if placed an a flat surface, or does it fan out in some particular pattern? I would assume the first, so if the range is 100', that's a 200' diameter zone that's 100' high at the central point. Given that 35' is the max height, you would lose very little spread by mounting it under the ceiling.

                                          Depends how you mount it. Ceiling mount and it should be almost exactly radial.

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                            @Dashrender said:

                                            Yeah I was wondering about the "don't mount at the high ceilings" comment too.

                                            I'm no expert - why not mount there? Is ceiling reflection a problem with typical ceiling mounted APs?

                                            Metal ceiling in this scenario.

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