@scottalanmiller it's pretty scary that GovOzle (I should trademark this now!) has even been tabled

@scottalanmiller this sounds dare-I-say-it... "Smooth"? Trawling ML at the moment, trying to decide if to move from Ubuntu server

@scottalanmiller aaaaand I still don't like it (secretly hoping it's now at "retirement age"). I'm sure some do like it, and that's cool

@scottalanmiller these discussions echo my thoughts exactly. I'm only (hesitantly) learning Docker now, but it feels like it's not a long term answer(I'm possibly too late to the party?), as other approaches are increasing in mind-share.

This is interesting. I unfortunately don't have the deep understanding of everyone contributing to this topic, but i'm taking it onboard as best I can.

I'd really throw effort into learning Ansible (at cursory glance it made more sense to me than Salt), if I could use it the manner I think @scottalanmiller is describing. I'm currently using different tools to wrangle our small fleet of devices into some sort of order. This is mostly MDM suite(s) and exploiting the Windows 10 PC options - but no server config management tools utilised as such (I have only a few, so return on potential time invested in Ansible, is very minimal).

JumpCloud has command runners for Linux, Windows and Mac..... I've been using it for Chocolatey and Powershell stuff on PCs (on and off LAN). There's an agent installed on your endpoint obviously.

@Dashrender so much PC driven medical equipment out there will be affected, not to mention the EHR systems that get, at best, medical compliance patching and are stuck on older non-10 MS OS'es

After adjusting the updates to the pve-no-subscription repo and updating (full-upgrade), I had an issue where no templates for Containers were available on the host, to "Download" (under pve -> local (pve) -> "Content" -> "Templates").

Apparently the list of available templates is updated daily through the "pve-daily-update timer".

I triggered and update manually (cause i'm impatient) via:

root@pve:~# pveam update

...you can then check the list via:

root@pve:~# pveam available

And then I had templates to use under pve -> local (pve) -> "Content" -> "Templates".

Just spinning up a Debian 10 CT and VM now.

Can anyone honestly recommend Teams? Asking for a friend

Without knowing if this is a professionally refurbished / checked unit and as you've not given details as yet, I'd offer that if it has a RAID card, check for a battery unit attached. Some of these can become swollen and leak with age - potentially damaging and dangerous.

Just a precaution.

Otherwise - like @scottalanmiller suggested, load up a hypervisor like XCP-ng, Proxmox VE, or your preferred Linux persuasion ( Ubuntu, Fedora, Centos, Debian ) and use those as your virtualisation and / or containerisation platforms. Microsoft flavour preference? Try Hyper-V Server. Note these are solely examples, other options exist!

OOTB Ubuntu 20.04 - So it's Gnome 3.somethingsomething

@CCWTech I'll wait for it to become "stable". I'm aware this term is a very loose one when it comes to firmware or updates from ubiquiti. 4.3.20 downgrade and disabling everything I could find in relation to Automatic updates was my solution.